Dumbledore's Big Plan: Fantastic Beasts [Harry Potter Theory]

Today Ben dives back into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to analyze the wild mind of Albus Dumbledore and all the various ways he's secretly pulling the strings in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them.

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[aionicthunder]

I'm just gonna say this: don't assume the "secrets of Dumbledore" is just about Albus' secrets. I fully expect this movie to have the big twist surround Aberforth, Ariana or maybe even Aurelius (man, their parents really liked 'a' names, didn't they?)

[coolnerdlll]

They said it was over...they said they were done...but Dumbledore's Big Plan lives on.

[rosariocastro]

Ok, why do they keep saying that to be a Dumbledore, Aurelious has to be Kendra Dumbledore's child... if Kendra Dumbledore had a child with someone other than her husband or a relative of his, that child wouldn't be a Dumbledore because she was only a Dumbledore by marriage. Whatever magical properties was linked to the Dumbledores (help from a phoenix for example), they would not apply to Kendra's child with a Lestrange, that child would be a Lestrange and a... whatever magical family Kendra belonges to.

[frossloaf]

Grindlewald having a different appearance in each movie reminds me of the jinx Voldemort put on the Defense against Dark Arts position, except in this case, its the actor's role thats been jinxed. So oddly enough it kinda fits xD

[sotirishatzivasiliou]

I think Ariana was killed by Dumbledore... Grindelwald wanted Ariana because of how powerful her obscurial was.. Dumbledore refused to get his sister involved and he got angry at some point and attacked grindelwald casting a spell forgetting about the blood pack and the spell rebounded and hit Ariana causing her death. After that Dumbledore was always calm and never lost his temper again (except in goblet of fire movie 😂)

[ThunderTech-]

I'd like to know if perhaps Arianna killed the muggles instead during a outburst and her father took the blame, insisting the family keep the truth a secret cause he knew what would happen to Arianna if she was exposed

[naomi_falk]

Did Dumbledore ever have any small plans? I feel like maybe he really needed to just get those socks he was talking about in the first book 😂

[guillermopena]

At this point, Grindelwald might as well be Mystique with how many faces he has. He could be anyone...even Ben! Have you seen Ben and Grindelwald in the same room? Didn't think so!

[Lakster]

If we're going with the "Aurelius IS actually Albus' literal brother" theory ... I mean... it HAS to be from Percival. If Kendra had a child with the old creepy Lestrange, you could call that baby a Lestrange, you could call it a *Insert-Kendra's-Maiden-Name* but... you just can't call that baby a Dumbledore... From the books, we know Percival was locked up in Azkaban - it doesn't specifically say it was for life or WHEN he died (Re: Aberforth's revelation to the golden trio), though in "King's Cross", Albus does tell Harry that Percival died in Azkaban. Regardless, I think it makes MUCH more sense for someone who is (supposed to be) in Azkaban to have a child with someone, and then name that child after their father, than for someone who is (supposed to be) dead to have a child with someone, and then name that person after the mother's husband... who isn't the father... We already have two examples of people escaping Azkaban (Sirius and BC Jr.), so there are loads of (IMO much more feasible) theories of how it could be Percival. And... I mean... technically Percival wouldn't even HAVE to leave Azkaban to have a child with someone... You can even theorize that Percival was legally allowed to leave Azkaban. Morfin attacked Muggles and wasn't locked up for life after all. As I said, there's Albus's line that said he died in Azkaban, but you can make any number of theories as to either why that might not be true (whether Albus knows it or not) or why he may have been released and then later sent back.

[vikrantjogalekar]

Hang on! Dumbledore knows about Leta's boggart. It's possible that Albus already knows about baby swap before the first movie.
Their conversation regarding the guilt of losing a sibling in Crimes of Grindelwald doesn't strike as a first time conversation.

[SymbioteMullet]

Credence isn't a Dumbledore.
But his Obscurus is.
As shown in FBAWTFT1, the obscurus can exist outside it's original host.
Perhaps this is why credence got to be so old; Arriana's Obscurus bonded to him when he was older, so he could survive the experience.
He might even be entirely non magical, but now he has the magic of a powerful bloodline grafted on to him via dark swirly tentacles.
And Grindlewold has been trying to find that Obscurus in the hope he can bring Arianna back in some way, to undo a great wrong and make his best friend happy.
Wouldn't that be a greater good?

[anothermcplayer]

Hello!
I just watched crimes of grindelwald again and I notest that when Queenie goes to the French ministry and drops her suitcase it looks like Dumbledores deluminator falls out. Maybe I’m seeing wrong but could be a interesting theory about how she got it.

Merry Christmas from a Swedish Viewer!

[DukeGaGa]

The only problem I have about this theory is that bloodlines are usually tied to the father's side of the family, which means even if Kendra Dumbledore had another son with someone else, that son would not be considered as a Dumbledore, which means he would not have the phenoxy blood/curse/blessing or whatever you call it.

[Fairypotter]

Doesn’t the name “Dumbledore” pass through bloodline. So technically Kendra is not a Dumbledore. So her baby through a different father would not be a Dumbledore.

[magica]

the first part doesn't really work unless dumbledore is a matrilineal line, right?

[musickat]

I don't think there is another movie title more accurately describing a character than "The Secrets of Dumbledore". The man doesn't like straightforward conversations, but he does have STYLE.

[garychundrlek]

If the mother gave birth to another mans child, they wouldn't be a Dumbledore, they would be of the fathers blood line

[ChienaAvtzon]

Kendra Dumbledore was a muggleborn. So, why would Leta's father kidnap her, to breed another child?

[etain.]

Grindelwald had the Lestrange family tree. He knows perfectly fine that Credence is not Corvus. He doesn’t need Leta to tell him the truth because he had the family tree to confirm that Corvus is dead. Also, Kendra can’t have a Dumbledore child unless that child is also the child of Albus’ father, because Kendra is not a Dumbledore by birth. That theory doesn’t make sense and has been debunked multiple times.

[madylynguinihin]

The theory that I still support 100% with regards to the Aurelius Dumbledore dilemma is that Credence holds Arianna's obscurus. I sense that it is a lame story if Aurelius is a true Dumbledore because there's no such thing mentioned on the Harry Potter books in regards to him. Also, if that Aurelius is true, I thought that Rita Skeeter would have written it down in her book.