Who Would win in a fight Between Itachi and Pain?

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Who Would win in a fight Between Itachi and Pain?
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I would like to point out that jiraiya only lost because he was caught unaware by 3 additional paths that appeared after he defeated the first 3 and lost his arm. Pain also stated that had Jiraiya known about them he wouldnt have lost

Lightingwarrior
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Underrated fact: Pain is weaker divided in 6 paths, Nagato would be stronger by himself with all his jutsus concentrated.

xni
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I just want to point the how smart Itachi is and the fact that he stated "every jutsy have a strong and weak point"

nebeskocarstvo
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I love how everybody's debating whether or not Itachi would beat pain but reanimated Itachi literally murdered reanimated nagato who may I remind you had all the powers of the six paths

denzpatt
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Itachi
Born as a genius🧠

Live as a villain🔥

Die as a Legend🗿

Hyjnor_Gaming
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Edo nagato > edo itachi > pain > itachi alive

Matt-zbhm
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Edo pain captured kcm Naruto and killer bee at once 🔂

eshucharan
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itachi can use forbidden jutsu such as izanami and he can manipulate reality of the opponent and make them go mad then he can put them in a cycle of memory that can be a traumatic memory. can put him in a loop of time . and he can learn opponents power . he can also use his memories against the opponent. but its also a mental tool to him itachi also feel these things but he mastered the dojutsu technique izanami, its the forbidden power that only three persons attained in Naruto. the person who can control this power will win . there is no how the opponent is strong because when a person puts in izanami their power will neutralize then itachi can attack them he can learn from his mistakes

ragis
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Even itatchi feared jiraiya. When they tried to take Naruto they waited till jiriaiya left. And jiraiya stoped them! They ran from him! Orochimaru is weak against genjutsu, i guess jiraiya can handle it.

TheSilvertrigger
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Ending this debate:
Edo Nagato>Edo Itachi>Pain>Alive Itachi

citrone
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Did u forget every jutsu has a weakness and that weakness is HIM🐐

CKDrako
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This is silly. Nagato was an Uzumaki…with RINNEGAN. Which is way stronger and more versatile than MS. Nagato has an immensely larger chakra pool than Itachi and significantly better eyes. This isn’t even a competition if we are being practical. Nagato beats Itachi with little difficulty.

Dio.Uchiha
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Itachi knew more history than anyone beside Madara, and Zetsu.

joels
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Pain is actually stronger.... In a battle Itachi could win not because he is stronger than pain...

Pain has huge powerful jutsus... He did it recklessly during pain arc... He could annihilate Sage Naruto and full kurama easily.... But he spend a huge chakra on the shinra tensei that destroyed the village... Technically he was even stronger than war arc Obito 🤞🏻... Nagato is a sensory type and also have huge chakra than Obito with hashirama cells which is crazy... Obito even said its hard to handle one rinnegan 🙏🏻...
Nagato is also a sensory type and could sense Obito from any distance...

If you watch the battle between edo Itachi and Nagato you could see how smart Itachi is... He waited for some time to analyse the situation before attacking... He first hit was for the eyes to minimise his vision .... Then practically used all the available support brilliantly ... Bro even used the explosion to hit nagato with totska blade...

As far as I'm considered there is a reason fans argue in the narutoverse why Itachi could defeat anyone in the narutoverse and its not because he is the strongest... We know he isn't 🤞🏻...

NithinN-nu
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In my opinion Itachi is one of the most Unique, Authentic and Influential characters from the series. The thing that people underestimate about Itachi fights/encounters, isn't just his power, (it's mainly writters or Kishimoto's fault for making Itachi seem or to look very powerful throughout the series) but how smart and intelligent he is during various situations, he never, ever underestimates his opponents because of his composure and his way of being, the level of thinking he's on honestly dwars most people in the series, with only people like Minato and Shikaku comparable with him. More precisly, Itachi isn't just any ordinary Shinobi also, he pretty much knows and he's also aware that all strong opponents have weaknesses (including himself), and he specializes in finding those "weaknesses" and exploiting them ("*Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness*" - Uchiha Itachi) because he's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. Itachi is very unique and authentic, especially in the factor of facing various encounters approach, his unpredictability in his way of fighting style approach it's his key factor in all of his encounters. Being blind or nearly blind has never slowed him down (especially when he's pretty much serious, but that's the point, he has never go all out against anyone during the series.) Itachi it's that type of character who can exceed almost any expectations. (at least that's what we were shown in the anime by the creator Masashi Kishimoto). Moral of the story, never underestimate Itachi. He did more sick than most healthy ninjas do in their entire life. In my opinion No One should underestimate such an unpredictable Shinobi like Itachi, even Madara (I won't say that Itachi can beat him, but at least he will be pretty much able to put a decent fight that Madara will also be impressed in my opinion). Also how can some of you guys even consider that Totsuka Blade it's slow when no such speed feat has been shown through the Shippuden that state it that it is slow? All of you are assuming it to be slow it may not be the case... Its not that the sword is unavoidable but it clearly has a very long range and is a very long blade. If you look at the manga, Naruto, Bee and Itachi are all relatively small from Nagato's point of view, and you can see the Totsuka Blade extending all the way from Itachi, piercing through Nagato, and still managing to nearly pop out toward the reader out of the page. I would say its fast because Kabuto coudldn't even react to it, and its not like Nagato was completely immobile to the point that he couldn't sidestep the blade. Also, Kabuto controlling people from far away is never stated to inhibit the Edos' reaction speed in any way. Being controlled by someone thousands of miles away didn't stop the Third Raikage from dodging KCM Naruto's Rasenshuriken. And as for Orochimaru, the sword struck him in between syllables of a word during his speech. I think that that is pretty fast. Pair the Totuska Blade with a good feint and its lethal because its ethereal, meaning it can pierce through any object. If the sword didn't live up to its reputation then Orochimaru wouldn't seek it out. People need to stop downplaying Itachi and denying the very clear speed feats of Totsuka. There is no room for interpretations here. The advantage of being an Uchiha, especially for Itachi and Madara, is that during an encounter against them, they always have a counter because of their unpredictable way of fighting factor, they don't run out of options or techniques, they almost always have a counter in their arsenal, even forbidden jutsus seems irrellevant against them, only a few Uchihas know a certain way to approach the situation with a certain and effective technique, that's why is hard/difficult to fight against them in my opinion. ☯️ 🤷🏻‍♂️ Here are the things that make Itachi so formidable. Tsukuyomi - A genjutsu so powerful that you literally can't escape it unless you have the same blood as Itachi, as stated by Itachi himself and proven later by Sasuke, or you're a jinchuriki. Jinchuriki are supposed to be immune to genjutsu but it hasn't been proven, but when Bee was fighting Edo Nagato and Itachi with Naruto, he said to watch out for Tsukuyomi explicitly. Literally 99% of all opponents fighting Itachi have no way of stopping Tsukuyomi. You could have the power to split the planet in half and it wouldn't matter. (Want to know why? - Kakashi pretty much state it in the actual anime and manga that Tsukuyomi it's such a dangerous Genjutsu Technique because it happen in a instant, even if you realize that you are trapped in the Tsukuyomi, it will be too late, because Itachi could approach you during that time in the real world (or he can use an Explosive Clone to approach you without you even realizing it in time and he can pretty much finish you before you can even realize, - 72 hours in Tsukuyomi realm means 1 second or a couple of seconds in the real world. Tsukuyomi can't be broken, when used to it's fullest.) The Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror - The Susanoo itself is a near invincible defense but these two weapons take it to the next step. The Sword of Totsuka can seal "anything" if it even touches it. It's completely OP. It's hard to fight a guy that can seal you away if his sword even touches you. The Yata Mirror is even a bigger deal in my opinion. It doesn't block attacks, it's "negates" them. You could throw an Amaterasu covered Bijuu bomb at Itachi and the Yata mirror will negate it, making it so the Susanoo doesn't even need to take a blow. You could punch the Yata mirror and the force will completely be negated. His biggest strength of all: tactical intelligence - Itachi always outsmarts and plans for everything because the plot demands it. You're physically strong? Itachi is already 2 steps ahead of you knowing exactly what to do. You're extremely fast? Again, 2 steps. You're going to try and outlast Itachi in a fight? Good luck. To add to this, some of the 3 most powerful techniques in the verse are due to his intelligence and planning ability; Izanami, Izanagi, and Kotoamatsukami. Izanami - A forbbiden genjutsu technique that allows you to alter someone's destiny. Impossible to break out of even if you know you're in a genjutsu without complying with the users set destiny for you. Even someone like Bee, a perfect Jinchuriki, can't escape Izanami unless he does what Itachi wants him to. Izanagi - You somehow gained an advantage over Itachi? He makes it so that advantage never happened. Kotoamatsukami - Though Shisui's technique, Itachi has his eye which effectively makes it his weapon. A genjutsu so powerful that the person it's cast on doesn't even know they're under a genjutsu. Like the Tsukuyomi, completely OP. To add to all of this, Itachi is pretty good at hand to hand combat, is great with shuriken, is extremely fast, is great with regular fire techniques, is slippery and unpredictable, and has the extremely dangerous and fast Genjutsu style of fighting approach that can caught you off guard almost at any time. With all of these things considered you've got one dangerous ninja. Lastly but not least Kishimoto made sure that Itachi was seen as someone special and he did an incredible job in establishing that in the story. When Itachi Uchiha awakened his Susano'o, he was seen wielding legendary weapons of the Totsuka Blade and the Yata Mirror. The former allowed Itachi to seal anyone he pierced in a world of genjutsu forever, while the latter gave him the ability to deflect any and all attacks thrown towards him, regardless of whether they were physical or spiritual in nature. According to Zetsu (who was around since the period of Kaguya time era until the present of Naruto) he state it in the anime and also in the manga that these weapons, when combined with his Susano'o, made Itachi Invincible. This is why Kishimoto basically had to give him a handicap: Naruto AIDS. 🤷🏻‍♂️ ☯️

DavidLucian
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As if nagato would sit silent, his almighty push is enough to throw itachi's susanoo a km away

aresop
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A susano is chakra, pain can absorb all chakra and ninjutsu. Almighty push can send a susano flying too. Pain is always underestimated for some reason. Rinnegan can perform all jutsus and the ultimate dojutsu.

vincentleoni
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Itachi also stated that if Kisame and him fought Jiryaha that would die. Jiryaha is way stronger than Orochimaru. Also Pain said if Jiryaha wasn't blindsided on the number of pains and if Jiryaha knew there were more than 3 he would have been able to take out the pains in a better order, leading to victory

codydillon
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But bro pain chakra is much bigger than itachi and pain can absorb ninjutsu and can repel attacks ...this is only a debate bcz susano of itachi have good weapons

hiteshsharmaa
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Don't worry about getting a lot of hate, people learn and grow, no worries just confidently state your opinion, we're are all entitled to freely speak.

ShuSky