Who Would Win in a Chess Match, Someone Who Can See the Future or Someone Who Can Read Minds? Puzzle

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Two people are playing chess, one can read minds and the other can see the future. Who wins? (Reddit)
Who would win in a chess match, someone who can see the future or someone that can read minds? (Quora)
If two people are playing chess, and one of them can read mind and the other can see the future, then who will win between them? (Twitter/facebook)
Recently, this problem has gone viral on many social platforms. People are sharing their thoughts in the Question answer forums, but there doesn't seem to be any reference answer from any of the known authors or mathematicians.

In this video, I am going to share a solution to this viral problem based on my own detailed analysis.

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Mind-Reader can also see the future by reading Oracle's mind

ShikharAgrawal
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The scenario is flawed. "The future" is undefined. If the Oracle sees he has lost, he can change the course of the game, creating a new "future". There is no definite future to be seen.

stevethecatcouch
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As a lazy mind-reader I would read Oracle's mind to see, what is the next move I am going to make. Work less, work smart :D

FildasFilipi
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This puzzle can be easily simulated in a real chess match with one additional rule for Oracle and MindReader:
1. Oracle must talk loud whatever strategy he is thinking in his mind during his or opponents turn.
2. Mind Reader has to tell Oracle his next exact move during Oracle’s turn to play, and honor that move in his next turn.

cool-aquarian
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i think the oracle has been underrated. he can see the future for each move he tries, so he could just go through all of the moves and play a move where he sees himself winning, essentially having a perfect strategy. even if the oracle is a horrible player, he can still win, and the mind reader wont be able to get any insight from him since the oracle doesn't know why he'll win, just that he will.

mstmar
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Oracle: sees himself losing in future.
Mind-Reader: reads oracle's blank mind, found nothing and he plays his own strat move.
Oracle: shook hands and resigned.

yngeshraman
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Clearly, mind-reading cannot be inferior to seeing the future, since the mind-reader can read minds AND see the future in the oracle's mind. So the mind-reader essentially has both powers. If the powers are enough to change the outcome, then the mind-reader will have the advantage, or at least, not be at a disadvantage due to powers.

XJWill
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The guy that sees the future doesn't actually have a super power, because he can't use it to change any outcomes ... Even if he is going to lose, he would still have to sit through the game and lose.

Mind reader can use his power to change outcomes. Meaning he can use his power to change a possible loss into a win or a draw.

wayando
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If Oracle is kind of Doctor Strange, then he would see every possible future, he doesn't need to calculate anything, he would just see the whole game in his mind for every possible move

brg
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Why you think, that Oracle can't change future? If he knows future, when he lost, he has ability to make another moves. Even if he can't change future, he still can analyze this game in deeper future, and use this knowledge to play optimally

ArtParsegov
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It would also be affected by how the Oracle's power works. You are assuming he can see only one move in the future. However, if he can also detect alternative futures that depend on his actions, it would be a different calculation. As he contemplates his response to e4, he will see his opponents next move and be able to predict which response on his part would lead to the best result. Therefore, both players would consistently have drawn games between them!

robertbailey
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There are so many assumptions floating around in this puzzle.

Can the oracle change the future? The video assumes no. But that basically nullifies the oracle's power. If I play a stronger player, I know there's a 90% chance they're going to beat me. Is that a super power? What does the oracle's extra 10% certainty add?

Or if the oracle has more detailed knowledge of the future, what exactly keeps him from using it to re-try the future? If he knows (for instance) that he will be checkmated by the opponent's queen, what keeps him from forcing an exchange of queens to stop that? (Yes, there's pawn promotions, but let's say he notices that it's a natural queen)

Can the mind-reader just read surface thoughts, or does he have access to all of the other player's tactical skill? If he can only understand his candidate moves that the opponent is actively thinking of, it seems he will blunder more than his opponent will, because his opponent is probably focusing more on this own moves.

Tehom
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It is a curse to be able to see the future. Imagine, you are simply a witness to all the misfortunes that would happen to you, but can do little to alter it. That's why you'd be better off not knowing what the future has instore for you, but plan and be prepared for the worst.

agytjax
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I want to say thank you to you. Because of your videos, in 1st interview of my life i got every riddles common.

tinahalder
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I just started the video but he is what I think the solution is: The person that can see the future is going to win, since the fact he is playing means he will win. If he was going to loose he wouldn't play to begin with.
Another option is that he just emptys his mind except when its his turn, and only thinks in the next move (which he will have thought before the match)

hormigatomic
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If the future that the oracle can see changes based on the mind reader's move that is based on what he "anticipates", then the mind reader is basically playing against himself. It comes down if the mind reader can draw a game with himself.

mariannerodriguez
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What if both of them doesn't know to play
Legend says they are still sitting there figuring out what those pieces are.

aravindkb
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I think seeing the future is gonna win since he could just make a move without thinking about it, so that the mind reader doesn’t know what he’s gonna do next

WinsYT
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I think it will always end in a draw regardless of who is weaker/stronger of the two. The reasoning is as follows. First, I will assume that the oracle not only sees the very next move, but he can see as far into the future as the end of the game. Second, the mind-reader can read the oracle's mind, and the oracle can see into the future, so essentially, the mind-reader can also see into the future. So this game can be "simplified" as one that is being played between two oracles. Call them A and B. Suppose that B wins the game. Then both A and B can see all the steps that lead to B's victory. However, assuming that each player is playing to win, A would want to change his moves after seeing the future in which B is victorious. But if A changes his moves, then we would have a different future than the one which he saw initially. So there is a contradiction. Similar argument holds for a future in which A is victorious instead of B, leading us to a place of contradiction. Therefore, we must have a future in which neither A nor B is victorious. And hence there can only be a draw.

bodwiser
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Any problem that involves time travel or seeing the future is going to be swamped by paradox unless the rules for seeing the future are exhaustively specified.
If the oracle can see every moment of the future, then he can see for example that the mind reader will take his queen if he castles, which gives him the opportunity to move his queen instead of castling.
He can also see the future created by moving his queen, along with every other possible move he could make, and every subsequent response by the mind reader.

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