This and That: 2022 Olympic Games Women's Recap with Polina Edmunds (Alexandra Trusova)

Earlier today, viewers of the 2022 OIympic Games witnessed a shocking scene transpire involving a screaming Alexandra Trusova, bawling Kamila Valieva, jubilant Kaori Sakamoto, Anna Shcherbakova, and critical Eteri Tutberidze. It was a medal ceremony for the ages and Polina Edmunds joins us for a very special recap of the women's event on 'This and That'.

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Alexandra Trusova meltdown

[carloscordero]

"We will allow Kamila to compete to prevent irreparable damage" - this did not age well

[isabellao]

The part I can't get over is in the midst of her meltdown (I feel for her, she's a teenager, but that's what it was), when Eteri tried to hug her, she pushed her away and yelled "You knew about everything!" Why aren't more people talking about those specific words??

[troyaturner]

And rather than focus on the negative, I'll focus on the good things. Seeing Kaori win bronze & her reaction to finding out she medaled was PURE JOY and left me misty eyed.

[hantingchen]

When Trusova said the words “you knew everything”, i got chills in my bones

[CrazyTiffany]

Thanks for all the content you've put out these past 2 weeks Dave! What we witnessed today was chile!

[hak]

Seeing Trusova breakdown after years of abuse and never winning gold's honestly heart breaking and it doesn't help that literal grown ass adults are calling her a brat for it, I truly hope all these girls pack up and leave eteri and seek therapy. I also cannot fathom why certain people would think Trusova and Valieva 'stole' Anna's 'time to shine' these girls are literally breaking down right in front of our eyes and you expect them to get their shit together after everything? some of you lack sympathy and empathy.

[twinklejelly]

This event was catastrophic on SO many levels. Heads should roll.

[qiwi]

0:17 Feelings after the event
1:12 Anna Shcherbakova
2:58 Doping
13:47 What this means for teenage athletes
16:10 Tutberidze technique
18:40 Sasha Trusova
19:30 Polina's favorite jumpers
21:00 back to Trusova, judging system, Olga Mikutina
26:11 Emotional abuse at Rambo 70, Tutberidze after Valieva's free skate
30:20 Narrative in russian media
34:18 Julia Lipnitskaya
36:28 Scaring the fandom off
39:56 American ladies
45:05 Wakaba Higuchi
47:40 World entries
50:44 Team event, aftereffects of the scandal
56:53 Moment of the event

[elizabethlangefeld]

It feels like a palate cleanser to have Polina outline all the wrong edges, pre-rotations, etc, AND highlight undervalued skating skills in other skaters in such a matter-of-fact manner.

[aalegalfocus]

That was definitely the weirdest and saddest Olympic skating event ever. Only Kaori Sakamoto's joy (as well as Alysa's) put a smile on my face. Thank you, Polina, for sharing your insight.

[fxfxfxfx]

Anna Shcherbakova absolutely deserves her gold medal. Many had written her off ( including DAVE AND JONATHAN ) but she came back to win a third Russian National, Worlds and now Olympic gold — and they still don’t give her any credit.
The mental game is what makes a champion — especially at the Olympics. Anna knew she needed two quads in the Free and she delivered when it mattered most.
Afterwards, she had the grace and maturity to refrain from celebrating while her teammates were in pain. What more do you want from her?

[Sonia]

I feel so bad for Tuktamysheva, imagine if the judges scored everyone fairly, she is technically one of the best, her 3A is actually 3A when she hits it and her 3L is usually huge and correctly jumped.

[AG-urdr]

I loved Kaori's performances. She skated her SP last, and her performance made me feel that everything will be ok. Then, she had to skate her FP after Trusova, knowing that she doesn't stand a chance against the Russians with their quads. And she nailed it, showing how powerful she is. I am so happy for her!

[Elizabeth-ypfd]

I feel like so many are forgetting that after months of many saying Anna couldn’t come back or complete quads again she just slammed down two clean programs. She had great musicality, really performed and gave it 110%. She fought for every single element and spin. I wish there had been a few moments to discuss how well she did and her mental fortitude to get through that. Watching her alone after with no one to congratulate her was heart breaking.

[brooklynt]

Watching the Women's FS today was emotionally exhausting, and I wasn't even there...

[Susan]

Aren’t ALL of you forgetting Tara Lipinski that wrecked her body at FIFTEEN doing triple/triples just to beat Michelle Kwan, and NEVER SKATED AGAIN due to injury??? I know no doping was involved, but she, with that small frame and pushing herself at every practice to do these multiple jumps that were unheard of then…..it’s kind of the same.

A tiny fifteen yr old wrecks her body for one moment of glory? It’s the SAME with Eteri - she wrecks their bodies, then discards them. From what I understand, Tara has problems to this day. In Tara’s case it was her MOTHER! Do you not recall the media strife Tara’s mother created? I do. She was a monster, pushing her daughter, and Tara never skated again, due to injury and repetition triple combos.

[shantarakelian]

Timestamps in progress:

0:00 Introduction (guest as well, Polina Edmunds, two time national silver medalist)

0:21 Dave asks Polina what the heck we make of the womens competition. Felt dystopian as Dave said. I haven’t personally watched it yet but I saw EVERYTHING on twitter, Instagram, youtube literally my phone was blowing up at work lol. I don’t know how I got anything done lol at work. Edit: I just finished watching the ladies free program.

0:36 Polina’s reaction and response to Dave’s question. Lots of tears (Kaori, Sasha, Kamila, all for different reasons of course).

1:14 Anna Shcherbakova winning and it took 5-7 minutes for someone (other than Kaori) to congratulate her. She looked lost

2:03 Polina responding to Jonathan’s question. She was speaking about her 2015 4CC win

2:28 Eteri finally congratulating Anna, her initial question was why didn’t you do the quad lutz 😂😂😂 wow

3:01 Polina making headlines about something she spoke about the JGPF, it was in her podcast and she mentioned something that had happened in the locker room. Some sort of bottle with liquid in it, that’s highly suspicious. In retrospect I am glad that Polina is bringing awareness to this. Mentioned the warmup and how odd it was. She said in the last year something fishy has been going on, I couldn’t agree more Polina.

5:48 Jonathan asking to clarify whether these program enhancers are more for long term or short term effects. More likely or not they are used for training to do all of these insane jumps.

6:19-8:41 Polina responding to Jonathan’s question. A skater doesn’t need drugs. Polina goes more into skating doping, it’s highly interesting in what she has to say. Skating doping is endurance doping. Mentioned meldonium. Insane run-throughs at Sambo70. Long term drug use effects. Dave continues with his points after Polina starting at 8:42, mentioned various methods used (lack of eating, dehydration, etc) Polina continues with this topic again picking up from what Dave had mentioned at 9:10 (Polina mentioned her drug tests and what goes on during these tests and the oddity of how long it takes and how odd it is that Russian skaters said they don’t drink water, which is alarming in it of itself).

10:22 Scandal bringing things to light, most amount of coverage at the Olympics

10:39 Dave reading about something on Xenon gas

11:19 Dave brings up the Anna Shcherbakova 2021 Russian Nationals “smelling salts”

11:37 3 substances found in Valieva (Trimetazidine, and two other heart drugs, All three drugs were heart medications of which only TMZ is banned).

11:49 Polina mentioned that it should be fair to investigate the rest of Eteri’s camp and legitimacy as well.

[Q_from_Star_Trek]

Thank you Dave and Jonathan for having Polina, it was wonderful!!! I was totally captivated for the whole 59 minutes...wow...problem is I'm on the West coast and couldn't stay that late (3-5am) and I didn't see any of the performances, but I'm so glad I could hear your takes. Hope that NBC or the Olympic channel will post them, as I wanted to watch all the skaters. Very good job, and thank you so much to all of you! 🌻🌺🌼

[dmp]

Help us make sense of it all Dave. What on earth did we witness today? When Sarah Hughes won the Olympics, images of JOY. When Tara won the Olympics, images of ELATION. What we saw today were images fit for A FUNERAL.

[ColonelGreen]

For the second consecutive Olympics, the bronze medalist was the real star for me.