RTX 4070 Laptops are Confusing...

My review of the MSI Stealth 16 Studio and Stealth 14 Studio. The best thin gaming laptop from MSI with RTX 4070 and RTX 4060. Performance and gaming benchmarks compared to RTX 3070 Ti + RTX 3070

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[dsofe]

MSI: "we call this the "STEALTH".
Also MSI: slaps a knockoff Lamborghini logo and RGB LEDs on it

[JBrinx]

Different name, not very different performance. Hardware unboxed was so unimpressed they cancelled their review

[cutthat]

The problem with the 4070 at this price its just too expensive for what it is

[hazmat]

I love the looks of them and can't wait to try them out! But I think the "stealth" moniker really becomes meaningless when they light up the "stealth" letters...

[ValorantCurios]

Glad I just got the Legion 5 Pro 3070. Massive clearance sales increase the price gap a ton between the previous and next gen devices. After seeing benchmarks, it would mean I have to pay 35% more money for 5-10% more performance overall

[ChairmanZhongXiNa]

MSI: The Stealth lineup will be more of a budget option.
MSI in Australia: The 14 inch model with the 4060 will start at $3700.

[jonathanr]

This "4070" should really be a 4060, where it would actually be a noticeable performance bump coming from a 3060.

As a 4070, it's a rip-off card for the $ considering you can find 3070ti laptops for $1400 right now easily in the US.

[canderson]

Man I really appreciate the 60fps. Looks so smoother and crisper than all the 30fps productions here on youtube.

[gowebcam]

Always appreciate the concise objectivity and the clean, pleasing colors Dave. Two thumbs up!

[brokecsstudent]

The 4070 laptops should take a big cut in pricing to be worth buying else it's not. There are not many games that support DLSS3 and Frame Generation

[Piketom]

I found a 3080ti laptop for nearly $1000 off MSRP the day before the 4080 mobile launched. It’s a proper little beast of a gaming laptop and while the new version is a pretty solid improvement, I’m not sure it is worth the nearly $2000 extra dollars it would have cost over the unit I got on sale.

[jc]

I keep thinking there's a grey spec of dust in the middle of my screen whenever I watch a new Dave2D video

[benjaminpeterson]

Very curious to see how well the zephyrus g14 will fare this year with NVIDIA gpus

[imnotdavidxnsx]

Don't understand why no youtube is acknowledging what's really going on. The 4080 is the 3070 upgrade. And so on. That's why 4090s are in laptops when 3090s weren't. So no they didn't just bump down the 4070 to fit it in smaller computers to sell more...they are lying about which card it's even meant to replace, which is the 3060, not the 3070.

[kyoko]

Dave2D always comes in fresh even when the outro is an oldie. ;-)

[powerless_imp]

As somebody who has no interest in 4K, I'm kinda interested in the 4070 if I were to ever upgrade my laptop

[MechAdv]

It’s not confusing. Nvidia simply shifted the stack downward. The 4070 is 3060 equivalent silicon. The 4090 is 3070ti equivalent silicon. The node performance uplift was so huge this generation that they shrank all the dies and named them the next thing up. 4070 is just the weird one where the performance delta is an overlap with the previous gen. That being said, getting more perf at 100W and below is pretty great, as laptop coolers have gotten obnoxiously loud in the RTX generation laptops. I’m waiting to see if the 7940hs/4070 combo in the Razer Blade 14” sees any significant uplift at 100W. Really tempted to pull the trigger on an open box 6900hx/3070ti model since they got upgraded to USB4 on the type-c ports.

[serceband]

MSI laptop hinges are extremely flimsy. My PS42's hinge cracked under very normal, mostly at home use, it's being held together by reinforced aluminum tape... I see that those new devices have a pretty much identical hinge mechanism.

[loosabway]

Dave - it's been a long time - are you still alive?

[markus.schiefer]

Finally. I was a bit disappointed how you ignored all the BS that Nvidia did with their notebook GPUs. Even the 3090 and 3080 have been badly named and did not relate to their desktop counterparts at all. Nvidia has been behaving scummier with each generation and they need to be punished by reviewers, buyers, regulators and consumer protection agencies for it.