High Power RTX 4050 / 4060 / 4070 Laptops Are a Waste 💸

Don’t waste your money buying a high powered RTX 4050, 4060 or 4070 laptop GPU! They don’t actually perform any better in games than cheaper laptops with lower powered versions due to Nvidia's voltage limit.

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Timestamps:
0:00 Don’t Waste Your Money!
0:24 RTX 40 Power Levels - According to Specs
0:43 Lower Power Limit Than Expected?
1:24 Here’s The Problem… A Voltage Limit
1:47 Not All Workloads Impacted
2:03 Power Scaling - Time Spy Score at Different Power
2:42 What About Game FPS? 10 Games Tested!
3:00 RTX 4050 (40-140W) - 10 Game Average - 1080p
3:32 RTX 4060 (40-140W) - 10 Game Average - 1440p
4:02 RTX 4070 (40-140W) - 10 Game Average - 1440p
4:26 More Dips in Performance? 1% Lows Compared
4:47 Are RTX 4080 and 4090 Impacted?
5:05 FPS in all 10 Games at 11 Power Levels on 3 GPUs
5:29 140W Might Help Some Workloads
5:49 Why Voltage Limit? Can it be Removed?
6:07 Artificial Limit so RTX 4070 Ti Makes Sense?
6:26 Low Power Levels Still Good for RTX 40 Series
6:48 Misleading to Advertise 140W 4050/4060/4070?
7:07 How I Will Show Voltage Limit in Future Reviews
7:59 More Laptop Mistakes & How To Avoid Them!

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[JarrodsTech]

Forgot to mention in the video, I also tried Cyberpunk with ray tracing on the 4060 to see if maybe using the RT cores would bypass the limit, but it was no different.

[mohamad.h]

It's the scam of the decade from nvidia selling cards claiming its "140w" when in reality barely reaches 100w smh . Great video Jarrod

[zefrog]

So basically Nvidia has deliberately hindered performance so as to not give any extra performance than they decide the consumer should get?

[hardsss]

Please let's take a minute to appreciate what Jarrod is doing for us here, I salute you man. I don't know without you how we would know these dirty quirks by Nvidia. Thank you so much.

[TechTyrial]

I call shame on Nvidia.
This is amazing information Jarrod❤

[buildingAbiz]

No one does a better job than you! Thank you for putting in the work you do!

[sebastianjost]

I really love these power scaling tests you do. They allow us to get a very good idea about the performance of whatever laptop we might want to buy any uncover oddities like the one shown here.
Thank you!

[kanbei]

Hi Jarrod. So far you had the clearest and most data driven tech reviewer i ever watched. You deserve more than thousands of subscribers!

[ijtaba]

That's really groundbreaking! They're only allowing higher TGPs in some particular gpu workloads to avoid lawsuits. They only want their 4080-90 series to reach the max performance limits!

[wolfstorm]

It's strange but I think those higher power limits will serve you best with a slight overclock, for example on my legion 5 with the 115W RTX 2060 refresh, going full throttle at 115W gets me nothing other than extra heat, the FPS is the same as running in 80W mode, but if I just add a 115mhz OC to the core then my FPS jumps up by 10-15 FPS, putting it on the same level as a stock desktop 2060, doing that same OC in 80W mode gets me nothing, maybe 3 FPS at best

[darrell]

Thanks for the valuable investigation. Very informative and useful to help people make an informed purchasing decision. It also confirms my decision to skip anything below 4080 for this gen.

[markus.schiefer]

That was known for quite some time now, but no one has done a proper job testing it and putting numbers next to it. Great job.
That being said, I am pretty sure Nvidia just (mis)used this limiter to restrict performance some more when they found out that they are still too strong even after castrating those dies.

[byongyoon]

Thanks for your another great coverage Jarrod. Definitely Nvidia is forcing their enthusiastic laptop gamers to pay a shitload of money for 4080 or higher. I'd been considering to buy another gaming laptop this year to replace my old Alienware m15 having 1070 max-q inside, but after watching your clips on laptop 40 series I changed my mind to have a desktop instead. They just don't deserve... Shame on you Nvidia.

[Ragnaraz]

Really curious to how well they would do with MSI afterburner tuning, undervolting and overclocking may actually allow it to make the most of that wattage. Just food for thought.

[umoz]

Thanks for the awesome work. How do you control and set the tgp of the mobile gpus? I have watched the whole video, maybe i did not catch it.

[orangeheartguy]

It's incredibly amazing that you point this out, Jarrod. You honestly do the most and I'm here for it! ♥️

[dragonee]

Thank you so much Jarrod for this information! Best laptop reviews for sure!
Could you also test the performance difference on video editing tasks like Davinci Resolve?
Appreciate your work!

[habbyhouse]

Give this man an award, equal to or greater then that of investigative journalism. He is the only laptop reviewer who appears to bring things like this to buyer/consumer attention. Jarrod have my respect all the way.

[bertoldgoltz]

Awesome work as always. Thanks. Can you please do same test with FG ?

[vietvhnguyen]

Great video! Great work! 💯
Maybe this is the first time I see a review testing the full TDP range.
Love to see a similar graph to the one at 6:10 but with the score scaled by watt, something like Scores/watt vs watts, in an updated version of this video.
If you can also include the laptop price range for each GPU TDP, I feel it could be one of the best buyer guides.
(It's just my thought when seeing this video, I am not sure if it possible to include the price or not)
Thanks!