Nietzsche VS Plato | Twilight of the Idols | Philosophy

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In this video I talk about Friedrich Nietzsche's book: Twilight of the Idols chapter 3: 'Reason' in Philosophy whereby I outline Nietzsche's attack against Platonism & metaphysics.

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ThoughtsonThinking
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“The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die. As well the minds which are prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be mind.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

QuestionEverythingButWHY
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Nietzsche is so annoying because Im reading Senecas moral letters and I was enjoying it until his criticisms on their entire model makes it hard to take as seriously as before 😭😭😭😭

malikialgeriankabyleswag
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I wouldn’t call Nietzsche a determinist. His highest principle is will-to-power. He definitely believes in free will.

mariog
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There is no good or bad, but reason makes it so - Shakespeare

thompsonhadaway
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Hello, i study philosophy and teach in high school. I LOVE your work and i`m very grateful for your existence!!! Will support you in the patreon. Thanks!
p.s.: please keep it simple for the high school students i often redirect here :)

ghfryw
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I've been looking forward to this.

PyrrhusNeoptolemus
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I think that Nietzsche is not a biological determinist. Because in the same book that you are examining(twilight of the idols) he writes this"No one gives man his qualities-neither god, nor society, nor his parents and ancestors, nor himself. " btw love your vids. I just think that categorizing Nietzsche as a biological determinist is not exact, but I think he's definetily a kind of determinist

miltonbueno
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Nietzsche is right as long as 2 presuppositions are true: that biological evolution is real/true and that the Christian religion is not based in the 'sense reality' .
I have thought about this subject in particular for a long time. And what struck me was that the Christian Gospel was preached not as merely some abstract philosophy, but as a truth based on facts, in this case the actual reality of Christ physical resurrection. (see 1 Cor. 15) Apostle Paul was too reasonable, too down to Earth, yet also too caring and loving. He, and the Christ he preached, must have either been an idiot, a lunatic, or right.

stefan-rarescrisan
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It should be noted Heraclitus was before Socrates and in no way under the influence of the Socratic forms.

JS-dttn
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My philosophy is inverted platonism: the further a thing is from true being, the purer, the lovelier, the better it is.

Friedrich Nietzsche

lycurgusagoge
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The problem with N is, Im actually really convinced, He dosen't understand reason.

fgc_rewind
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Really fascinating, and nietzsche has some sharp arguments. Especially the idea that there is no point in focusing on metaphysical conceptions because they are birthed from rationality, rather than something observed, and that even the will is suspect from his pov since it would violate causality. What i find interesting is that nietzsche still speaks almost as if the will were real, in the sense that he implores us to be better, or become or overcome ourselves. What is this actualization in nietzschian terms? When he says we need not be a genius or have talent to become great at something? Is that not will? And if it isnt, what do you call when you make an act to become better or who you are? Maybe there are various "roads" that are predetermined that you select from, but the choices within those paths are locked in. Meaning you can only choose perhaps the core values that determine your outcomes or paths. Idk. Im curious to know. Jordan Peterson posits that we act as if free will does exist, in much the same way that nietzsche suggests we ought not to waste our time on metaphysics because it comes from reason rather than the senses, i can imagine pondering whether we have it or not is equally fruitless because we act as if we do

fierypickles
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What a timing! I just started reading Twilight of the Idols!

percivalbuncab
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Love the videos but the ads interrupt my concentration. Wish there was a YouTube without ads

dannyclaydenchambers
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What a waste of opportunity to mention Thucydides

petrosmaragkos
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Fun fact, when one searches for Nietzsche has a discussion with Plato [FULL ENGLISH SUB] here on YT, a full discussion between the two can be found. Very interesting and very good actors!

liubei
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Hey, do you have or plan to make videos on "The Genealogy of Morals"? I am currently reading this book, and really loving it!

sadattahmeed
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The thing with western philosophy is: jung believed, Plato believed, Marcus Aurelius believed... the thing with their beliefs is just perception of what they think reality is— a never ending debate.

MrTapout
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Thine•king or thinking.... Identification with "I" brings division and possession (thine servant king?) by thought. Not my will but thine be done. Identification + my"i"/thine (yours) = division/fragmentation

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