The Age of Tiwanaku: What They Aren't Telling You

The site of ancient Tiwanaku on the Andean Plateau near Lake Titicaca in Bolivia has attracted much attention, especially the Pumapunku complex. Are there any clues as to how old it is? In this video, we look at the evidence presented by UnchartedX to see how well it holds up.

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► REFERENCES

Recommended: Kolata The Tiwanaku

Recommended: Janusek, Ancient Tiwanaku

Protzen and Nair, Stones of Tiahuanaco

Scientific dating of Tiwanaku:

Geological history of Tiwanaku:

Tiwanaku quarry:

Tiwanaku agriculture:

Tiwanaku astronomy:

Obsidian hydration:

Tiwanaku's collapse:

3D reconstruction of the Pumapunku:

Diffusionism:

Arthur Posnansky:

Posnansky and the calendar:

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[captntorthenaer-do-wellcad]

Excellent take down! I'm tired of unprofessionals with their twisted agendas! Thank you for your considerable efforts that should never have been required.

[Hemrahban]

some of the comments of unchartedX videos say stuff like: "i love your calm and mindful explaination" while that guy is rambling on, verbally waving his jazz hands in my face.

i love your calm and mindful explaination... of historical data, resulting from methodical and empirical study

[AdamMannD]

Hey, normal person just passing through. You're doing good work. These ancient aliens people Joe Rogan is elevating are making everyone stupid. Keep it up.

[J_Z]

Love this video. I visited Bolivia when I was a kid and have been fascinated with their history ever since. I think the point you make at the end of the video is by far the most important. The native Aimara and Quechua peoples have long been overlooked, exploited, and denigrated. It is important to study and credit these people with their own work, as simple as that may sound. For some reason, many of the ancient high technology folks seem to focus their attention on places that aren't in Europe or where white people built. Although I doubt that these people are active racists, I think it's fair to say that they are preying on racist attitudes prevalent on our society. This is why videos like this are so important. You expose the lies, and explore the truth. That's how we mend past crimes of archeologists, of which this is but a small part. Thank you for making this video.

[jeffconway]

As someone who had in the past been taken in by the con artist I very much appreciate your work. All I ever wanted to do was learn new things and the con artist took advantage of that to line their pockets all the while making their audience more ignorant in the process. Being an agent of ignorance is a crime against humanity and your work is the proof not just they are wrong but that misleading people was and is their specific intent. Thank you and please keep it up.

[Rockstarjerry]

Thank you for continuing to make videos in the myths series. I was brought to your channel because I was curious what the "mainstream" evidence is on many of these topics. I had first watched unchartedx channel before yours.

I really appreciate your claim by claim rebuttal of unchartedx. As well as your straightforward explanations of the counter evidence.

I am a nuclear engineer and am generally frustrated by the emotional reaction of the general public to a technology I very much believe in based on the available scientific evidence. A heart felt thank you for helping me avoid being taken for a similar ride with respect to the historical record. I really appreciate the work you're doing here and in all your videos.

[podemosurss]

9:04 As a native Spanish it's enormously funny hearing him say that while he features those two signs as background. Specially the one in the left. I'll just give a translation:

Left sign:
Tiwanaku
The capital city of the Tiwanaku Empire on its classical era constituted a densely populated centralised estate with a superior command chain, under which artisans and farmers that supplied a diversity of goods harvested from different ecological strata
CHRONOLOGY:
Rural Period (I and II): 1580 BC - 133 CE
Early Urban Period (III): 133 - 374 CE
Classical Period (IV): 374 - 900 CE
Imperial Period (V): 900 - 1200 CE

Right sign:
Pumapunku
The biggest Tiwanaku temple found up to this date can be seen to the east. Inmense polished blocks, the biggest of which weights 132 Tons. 3 platforms built on top of ashlars, a superior platform with U-shaped floor colored in ocher red, sewer canals joined with copper strings and an inferior yard.

So for me hearing him say "there has been considerable controversy just around when they were originally built" while the image portrays a picture that reads when they were originally built got me thinking like "bro, just check the freaking sign, it's written right there"...

[toniwilson]

Just a poor college student still, but I always make sure to leave a like and share on these videos. I love any academics out there who are sincerely helping to combat sensationalized and propagandized historical accounts.

[lastofmygeneration]

Dr. Miano!!! This is, by FAR, the best video I have ever seen covering this fantastic site. Bravo sir!

[philthycat]

I’ve started just to wait until you’ve made a video of a subject such as this, to watch anything else to do with the subject. Saves me hours. Thank you so much.

[wenkeadam]

Thank you for sharing this thorough analysis. At 78 I'm old enough to have seen countless examples of how fast younger people forget about the ingenious technologies of the very recent past, even from 50 or 100 years ago. It seems to be very easy to underestimate the skills and knowledge of dedicated craftspeople and the power of the passage of time. The many "mysterious ancient" explanations found in YouTube videos are seductive at first sight until someone like you comes forth with serious facts and recent investigations that make sense of it all. Without having to resort to aliens, giants or more advanced civilizations from outside to explain what very capable local people have done. We must continue to combat ignorance and racism whenever and wherever they continue to appear. Thank you again for your tireless efforts.

[jellyrollthunder]

Dr. Miano, I often sleep with your videos playing on repeat, lol. Your last video on UnchartedX absolutely changed my life, I can't understate that. You do amazing work, thank you so much for shining light on these guys for their audiences to see. I spent so many embarrassing years reposting videos from UnchartedX, Ham Grandcock, and others. I came damn close to starting my own channel (which I still might do), but I feel so much better armed to do so thanks to your videos, Stephan Milo, Ancient Architects, and others. I'm also THRILLED that Matt from Ancient Architects actually responded to you and updated his views and tactics. I always knew he was one of the real ones. Keep up the good work!

[roan]

I´m doing a masters in geology, hearing the geological claims made in this is like nails on a chalk board. Dating erosion like c´mon man extremely difficult and you ain´t gonna do it by looking at a rounded rock.

[glenhayman]

thank you for trying to maintain integrity in a world that believes in the fiction over actual science

[inigojones]

I read about Tiwanaku back in the 1970's from various books and often wondered. Its good to find a current, reasoned informative doco. outlining factual information. I'm happy with what I have just watched. Thank you.

[chris]

Just wanted to say how much I appreciate seeing such good content on the subject on YouTube. I remember looking at subjects like this 5 years ago or so on YouTube and it being pure craziness. You are a really incredible presenter in addition to knowing the facts so comprehensively, and I learn a lot from your public speaking style.

[bref]

Damn! I really enjoyed the UncharteredX video, but I enjoyed your video with explanations based on up to date research even better. Thanks again.

[TheAntiburglar]

As an archaeology student right now, it's always amazing to me how hard people have to work to deliberately misrepresent the disciplines of archaeology and history, particularly radiometric dating. Uncharted x is certainly well practiced in spreading misinformation, but it would be nice if someone with that many followers would use their influence more positively.

[Core-vumc]

Why the take down at all? Why not just present your information on Tiwanaku based on archaeology studies? People make fun of Ancient Aliens (I do too) but if it weren't for them there wouldn't be any archaeology on TV at all. Pretty sad. I'm old enough to remember when that wasn't the case. I'd love to listen to more of this but the angst makes it unpalatable.

[hedgehog]

34:29 Do ancient civ people not know the term terrace? Not everything that is stepped is a pyramid, it has to actually be shaped like a pyramid to be one otherwise it's more accurately described as being stepped.