DHH - Ruby on Rails, 37signals, and the future of web development

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This week we're joined by DHH, the co founder of 37signals, and the creator of Ruby on Rails. We talk about the future of web development, the history of Rails, and the evolution of the web. David also talks about his views on the longevity of software and ecosystems.

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00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:29 The Genesis and Impact of Ruby on Rails
00:04:27 The Aesthetic and Philosophical Approach to Programming with Ruby
00:09:32 Ad 1
00:11:15 Aesthetics Continued
00:23:49 Ad 2
00:24:23 The Moden Web
00:40:27 The Shift Away from Apple
00:55:16 Rethinking Cloud Dependency and Advocating for Simplicity in Web Development
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I literally watch DHH interviews to learn new words and English idioms. He never fails to deliver.

clintkennedy
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We need more DHH in this world. The world would be a better place!

rpf
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DHH still appear relevant, real, grounded, inspiring innovator just as fresh like when he brought rails to the world.. 15 years to me, a whole career of full of happiness just as advertised. Thank you sir

fuu
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DHH is also a great teacher! Love his enthusiasm decades dedicated for both business and open source!

jonatasdp
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This was absolutely wonderful. David is like the kind of person that you say, hey tell us another story and you sit down and listen and time just flies by and you can't wait for the next time. Damn this was just so good!

FrankHale
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DHH gradually descends into Gilbert Gottfried during the podcast

ReeyWhaar
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His philosophy on web and computing are so aligned with mine. So glad someone else sees the cloud as a black hole like I do.

rajm.
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I've had that exact experience of walking back to a project with webpack after a year or two and nothing worked. Brutal and horrible feeling

jacksonstone
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Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication !
pure insight this from DHH :)
and the brilliant thought of just getting back to basics .. cos that's gonna stand the test of time !

anoosurf
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Absolutely nuts! One of the best interviews ive ever seen.

Jensemann
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Agree with DHH on the thought police. God forbid they get control of DNS servers or worse. Great interview guys.

edwardo
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Amazing guy! I've learned so much from the Rails framework, including Active Record, MVC, migrations, and numerous principles and design patterns. truly opened my mind to look at coding in a different way. Thank you for this interview. His book, 'Getting Things Done, ', 37signals <3

jamesdenmark
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"I came, I saw, I bundled then I Ieft"🤣🤣🤣🤣

dreamzbeatz
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Completely agree with DHH. Typescript is a total slog to write. I actually find JS incredibly expressive and powerful. I don't enjoy writing ceremony code.

mikemargerum
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20:03 amen to Ruby’s meta-programming awesomeness! Nothing compares! That combined with method blocks (which I think Groovy also has)

brnto
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Bravo guys!, really good interview, you guys asked really good questions and let David speak, he's so inspiring to listen to, 10/10 👏👏👏.

spencerlong
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Dhh ui designs are amazing...I am amazed..he is very close to perfect...

hirakhax
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@devtoolsfm Great Podcast with DHH. I am beginning to learn Ruby as my first programming language.

stulindenjr
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Anyone else still using Ruby on Rails?

xjgzlnq
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I've fallen in love with Rails after discarding my Laravel projects. Now, I can simply create things that work without constant headaches! I grew tired of updating my projects every time Laravel decided to adopt a new programming style or having to modify countless lines just to make Select2 work with Livewire. Creating a datagrid with search options often meant dealing with a hundred new files. Switching to Rails has made my life much easier.

For context, I've been programming since 1998, and I'm also exhausted from dealing with all these JavaScript frameworks.
Let's make programming great again!! :D

davidlyons