The UNEXPECTED HEALTH EFFECTS of Loneliness: U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy x Rich Roll

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00:00:00 Intro
00:02:13 Is The Surgeon General a Military Rank?
00:05:08 The Role of Surgeon General
00:07:56 Issuing Advisories
00:13:08 The Advisory on Loneliness and Isolation
00:16:29 Loneliness in Hospitals
00:17:34 Youth Loneliness and Social Media
00:21:31 Factors Leading to the Loneliness Epidemic
00:26:49 Ad Break
00:27:54 The Impact of Social Connections on our Survival
00:30:58 The Neurochemistry of Loneliness and its Effects
00:34:31 The Challenges of Reaching Out When Feeling Lonely
00:38:46 The Role of Community in Recovery
00:40:44 The Impact of Social Infrastructure on Connection
00:42:20 Top-Down Solutions for Addressing Loneliness
00:49:03 The Decline of Community Institutions
00:54:15 The Impact of Loneliness on National Security
00:57:09 Three Core Needs
00:59:29 Shifting Towards a Culture of Love and Connection
01:01:14 The Revolution of Consciousness
01:02:21 The Importance of Leadership and Modeling Values
01:03:57 Building a Movement for Moral Renewal
01:09:15 Delaying Use of Social Media at Home
01:12:59 Tech-Free Zones and Safety Standards
01:15:18 Building Communities and Alternative Pathways
01:21:59 The Impact of Technology on Children
01:23:43 The Need for External Accountability for Social Media Platforms
01:28:16 Bipartisan Support for Legislative and Regulatory Change
01:32:56 A Vision for Our Country
01:37:33 Wrap Up

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I was suffering for loneliness as a single woman in my 60's. Then I got a dog, Now I have met every person in my neighbourhood who has a dog. We meet at the park at specific times, daily for social time. We go for lunch and dinners, invite each other over to our homes for parties. We organize hiking trips, go to the movies, trade garden plants and recipes, share books etc. I feel like my dog saved me from a life of loneliness.

dianemcconnell
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What a lovely, intelligent and understanding man. I am profoundly touched by his presence.

marygrogan
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IMO, social media is like the fast food of human connection. Looks and feels like the real thing but it's totally devoid of all the stuff we actually need and is thus killing us slowly. Wife and I are in our late 30s and none of the similarly aged people who are slowly buying houses in our neighborhood have any interest in socializing. Most can barely even muster saying hello in passing.

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Walking with a friend in the dark is better than walking alone in the light.
- Helen Keller

joryiansmith
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The Surgeon General Murthy is a wonderful human being. Imagine if the whole world were to follow his lead in the exceptional ideas in his closing statement. What a wonderful world we would live in. Thank you Rich, an outstanding interview as usual.

dianemcconnell
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As a child of the 60s and 70s television age, my parents made the decision to not have a tv in the house. It was awkward and hard, not watching the cartoons, sitcoms, etc., that my peers were watching. Instead, I made an art studio and a science lab in the basement. I made super 8 films, recruited classmates to be in them. I was a weird kid. But I was in the tactile, actual world, somewhat less influenced by advertising, peer pressure, mass culture. I am so grateful to my parents for letting me live IRL. Now more than ever, we need more parents who put in the effort to give their kids that experience.

kjmav
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Extraordinary guest Rich - we need leaders like this compassionate man, who can set a kinder course. Thanks...

deancooling
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How beautiful is the Dr. Murthy's answer to the legacy he would like to leave! A nation connecting with it's core of love would bring a whole lot of good into the world and peace to each of us. How brilliant and brave for him to name the ailment that causes our suffering. I appreciate his pointing out that it's the character of policy makers that determine public policy (more or less, he said that, I think). This podcast was most refreshing. Thanks.

kaarinkes
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Being with yourself not by yourself is the key to being alone and not being lonely

SmellGoodTravelWell
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I’m deeply touched by the work that Rich Roll & team does! Thank you for having this Surgeon General at this time. His work is astounding!❤️

ninabanks
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Damn, I actually shed tears listening to this and their descriptions of how loneliness presents. That's a first.

SergieRachmaninoff
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Profound discussion. These are Buddhist values, spirituality minus organized religious structures. Thank you. I love to walk in my neighborhood and exchange a hello, a smile, a kind comment...with strangers and neighbors. I get a huge oxytocin rush and always feel more connected after simple, short human engagement. ❤

lindaelarde
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This SG is so approachable and thoughtful in his manner, this is refreshing.

jodrew
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Suburban development planning and building codes are a serious significant factor that literally builds-in loneliness and isolation. Planning Code is soooo hard to change despite knowing well the negative consequences of it. To make it a health issue could be a tipping point. Hope there can be a spotlight on the serious and well-documented science around the negative impact of encoded and insidious development patterns that only serve status-quo profit models.

MarciaKarasek
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Being alone(not lonely) without avoiding people and being able to function and be happy(or content) is very important skill. I learned it when I first moved to European country and the US. Right now, I get much joy from meeting and chatting with neighbors, interacting with colleagues, shop assistants and sometimes having a deep conversation with friends and seeing my extended family, even if it happens once a year or once in 2 years(due to distance) Am I happy? I can say that I don’t feel lonely and feel connected to people. It is an active effort each of us should make to connect with people, to understand them and to care about what is going on around us

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This deserves way more views!!! What a great conversation. This surgeon general is a delight!!! He’s now my most favorite public servant. What a gentle soul. His voice is relaxing. He’s so thoughtful. I hope his initiatives are successful. We really need some major changes to pull us out of the tar pit we seem to be stuck in. You can’t tell me the entire trans issue all stems from social media and loneliness.

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Thank you, Rich, for getting Dr. Murthy on your podcast. 'Became a huge supporter of his work when I first heard him speak on other podcasts shortly after the release of his book in 2020. So, in a way, 'have waited more than three years for two of my favourite people engage in conversation about the subject of loneliness. In my opinion, it would be a much better world if someday individuals like Dr. Murthy are in hugely influential (not to say, he isn't currently in a position where his message will no doubt find an audience) positions like president of the U.S. For now, though, 'truly cherish him in whatever official or unofficial role he assumes. His gentleness, warmth, compassion, etc. are so refreshing in a both a collective world that is suffering and on a micro, individual basis.

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In this episode two lonely persons discuss loneliness to an audience of other lonely people.
Brilliant insight. The issue is also safety. It is hard to invite a complete stranger to our home, but not so hard to share a picture of our place with a stranger.
If we have a sense of being safe it is easier to connect.

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Such an important message. I feel like the pandemic and social media have had a profound effect on loneliness. I hope that we can make changes as a society to come back to what really matters, love.

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