Substance vs Property Dualism (What is the difference?)

Join George and John as they discuss and debate different Philosophical ideas. Today they will be discussing the difference between Substance and Property Dualism.

Dualism is the belief that the mind and body are distinct. However within the theory of Dualism the two most common approaches are substance and property. This video outlines the main difference between these two Dualist theories.

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0:00 - Introduction
0:27 - What is Dualism
1:24 - Substance Dualism Explained
2:58 - Property Dualism Explained

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[Somnerwalks]

I guarantee every view on this video is from an RS student writing an essay last minute

[lilytang]

This is very good and informative chanel for students who studying philosophy!

[phantom_drone]

I am confused, doesn't "non physical property" imply the existence of a non physical substance??? Or at the very least, I don't see how non physical properties emerging from physical properties proves that only a physical substance exists

[maync]

Well, if so, then upon death the mental capacity would have to disappear. This seems very questionable in terms of what we know about near-death or momentary death experiences, panpsychism, etc. where something comes to us without it having possibly been generated by us.

[drchaffee]

If concrete and abstract objects exist, then perhaps the brain can physically encode, or house, an abstract object like an idea, a number, knowledge, etcetera. (In fact, philosophy seems predicated upon this ability.) Also in this case, it would seem possible for ideas - at least on occasion - to drive the brain's chemistry, and not always just some blind slurry of neuronal potentials driving the mental. So if I posit that both abstract and concrete objects exist - does that make me some flavor of dualist? Doesn't seem that Cartesian dualism or property dualism describes the position.

[demetriusmccray]

I love your channel thanks for the good content!

[Rspknlikeabssxd]

Property dualism has never really made sense to me. If physical is defined as some public object (everyone had equal access to the object) then something mental isn't physical because it is not something we have public access to. The perceiver has exclusive access to the thoughts, feelings, etc. But if we are property dualists and call them mental properties, I don't see how they can be reduced to physical properties. They couldn't be public events, they're exclusively private. If you believe in a physical, material world, but also believe there are mental properties, I don't see how you can't be a substance dualist. If you consider Leibniz's Law, mental events canmot be the same thing as physical events. They're something seperate.

The way I've tried to understand the distinction is that substance dualism has our identity being our mind/soul/spirit/thinking perceiving thing that has mental properties and a physical body. A property dualist believes we are just our brain, that is the thinking perceiving part of us. But, we have mental events. But those mental events don't make sense to me, I think you should accept either physicalism or substance dualism if you believe there is a material world.

As always, I am an idealist. I think that is what our position should be on the matter :).

[iansmith]

There must be some property of experience latent to all matter. Experience necessarily precedes consciousness. Consciousness is a configuration of physical experience organized to an extremely high level of order. The physical world, by its very nature, I suspect, has inherent experiential properties. Maybe I’m just missing a step 🤷‍♂️

[todorapeter]

In what works did Kripke and Nagel talk about the comparison to fire and heat?

[hussainishakeelshah]

How we differentiate mind and spirit, soul. Soul is also a reality and live in or with body ??? But it's non physical property .... Secondly when we die does the mind to or it disappear??? Thirdly information that a mind receives through different means also lives in mind?? What happened with it when we physically dies??? Pls answer

[Xcalator]

But if, as you say, property dualism is the view according to which mental properties reduce to physical substance, what is the difference to reductive physicalism?! Property dualism IS NOT reductive or even non-reductive physicalism! Your explanation misses the point (or maybe property dualism itself misses the point...). Isn't the concievability of p-zombies an argument for property dualism and also a refutation of physicalism? I'm confused...help me!...

[nestortsagov]

What about the occult perspective that ALL is MIND ? Everything is Mental ?

[muazam]

Would you make a video Martin Heidegger's philosophy

[daman]

What's the difference between property dualism and non-reductive physicalism? Are they the same thing?

Edit: It seems like non-reductive physicalism is a type of property dualism

[sofiapaglia]

is behaviourism the same thing as property dualism?

[mariomiguelito]

Love this, guys! I definitely think I'm a dualist to the core but which king? Hmmmm I'm not quite sure yet, you two make good arguments and valid points for both sides.

[emmanuelmweemba]

great job, I really enjoy your channel

[CovertGamer]

If voluntary thoughts are the result of neurons firing in your brain, what causes those neurons in your brain to voluntarily fire?

[sad_doggo]

What is the Eastern antithesis to this? Does anyone know? I feel like I knew when I was younger but I forgot ><