Oceangate Submarine Disaster - What REALLY Happened (Reaction)

Oceangate Submarine Disaster - What REALLY Happened (Reaction)

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[JB-mglw]

Vet submariner and Nuclear Reactor Operator US Navy, now commercial instructor for Nuclear Power. The design, materials, and utter disregard for safe engineering practices and experience are literally criminal. The CEO is lucky he was in the Sub. Sorry to be so coarse but there is not a Sub Vet I know who would have gotten into that submersible!

[Kaybri]

The craziest part to me is that there are videos coming out now of Rush saying things like “Rules were broken to make this but you’re remembered for the rules you break.” I know he meant it in like a “I broke the rules but it’ll make this trip bigger and more successful” way but because of what actually ended up happening he got what he wanted. He will be remembered for the rules he broke.

[Jiibay]

People associate James Cameron as just being a Director, but in all truth he truly is a Deep Sea Explorer and considered by many to be an expert in this field. He has done a lot of deep sea exploration.

[ravenm]

Rush was blinded by his own ambition. So much so that he wasn’t willing to listen to experts who brought up very serious concerns. He genuinely believed it was safe because there was 4 ways for them to get the vessel to surface. He actually said it was “unsinkable.” The last time that was said 1500 people lost their lives and now 5 more. His friend who went on a test dive with him said he could hear the vessel cracking the deeper and deeper they went. Rush’s solution was to put sensors on it to indicate any sort of issues to the hull, which would allow them time to resurface. What he failed to realize is at those depth, if the hull is failing due to pressure, it’s gonna just straight up fail. There isn’t going to be time. I don’t mean to be critical of a man who just died but he was negligent. I understand that his vessel was experimental. But then it should have gone through years of testing to see how it would react to repeated dives. I’m sure there are ways to do this remotely. And to anyone wondering, the waiver means nothing! There’s plenty of corners OG cut that would render them negligent. You don’t get to commit gross negligence and wipe your hands clean. Then there’s the question of what those who signed the waiver actually understood. What do they mean that the vessel was experimental? Did they understand that these materials aren’t traditionally used and why they aren’t? Then there’s the fact rush would dismiss riders concerns with “we’ve done this many times, nothing’s happened, ” “people have been diving titanic for decades, nothings happened, ” “it’s safe even if things fail.” So to what end did these people have a false sense of security? If you have a false sense of security, you don’t truly understand the risk involved with this vessel.

[kamthornhill]

James Cameron had no relationship with Oceangate however he and many others did take the time to write to Rush and let him know how unsafe his design was and trying to talk him out of taking the trip.

[Vixsufil]

James Cameron is a Canadian film director who directed Titanic, Avatar, Avatar:The Way of Water, The Terminator, The abyss, Terminator 2, Aliens, and also was an executive producer on point break. Also James Cameron doesn’t hold the record for the deepest dive eve that belongs to Jacques piccard and Don Walsh who dove to 35, 800 feet.

[eliwoods]

James Cameron is pretty obsessed with deep ocean submersion and knows everyone in the community. He talks about how making the film titanic was a dream because it helped facilitate many deep dives to see it himself. He’s seen the titanic in person 33 times in total now. And he made a film about going to the Mariana Trench. He’s well versed and knows all the lingo on the subject. He was on Anderson Cooper speaking eloquently on all this last week.

[maryannweitzel]

I learned a few truths in my youth. Always expect the unexpected, buy cheap get cheap, hope for the best but expect the worst and if it wasn't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all. Nothing in this world would have gottem me on that death trap.

[joyannwesson]

Yes James Cameron is the director of the titanic movie.
I'm pretty sure the pictures of the titanic were from a robot sub.

[amj]

James Cameron has been to the Titanic 33 times. You can see the actual Titanic wreckage in his movie “Titanic”

[whattha_huh]

Having to rebuild it all the time is a great reason to stick to steel and titanium for the whole craft. Then you can just melt down the metal and form it again instead of re-making the carbon fiber.

[windsorkid]

According to Cameron, the text to the surface ship about deploying the ballistic weights was likely seconds after hearing the beginning of the delamination of the capsule which likely happened milliseconds later. Can't imagine the horror of impending death.

[scottstewart]

They never tested the CF hull to establish a failure depth (and therefore margin), or to a test number of dives. Engineering malptactice not to have any notion of when your experimental combination of materials will fail.

[paulobrien]

Robert Ballard discovered the wreckage of the Titanic in 1985 a full 12 years before Titanic the movie was released

[schuylerschultz]

wanna know the scariest part? Many believe the Titanic was cursed from the get-go because many years before it was even constructed, a book was written, called "Wreck of the Titan", about a ship called "Titan", which sank in a similar fashion. Now you have a submersible, called "Titan", which imploded while visiting the Titanic.

Everything has now come full circle.

[ravenm]

Risk is everything that comes after all safety measures have been taken. That didn’t happen here.

Rush said “You know, at some point, safety is just pure waste. I mean, if you just want to be safe, don't get out of bed, don't get in your car, don't do anything. At some point, you're going to take some risk, and it really is a risk-reward question."
So you know where his priorities are.

[yugioht]

Technically James Cameron has the record for deepest solo dive in a submersible. He did it on his own but the submersible was designed and built by the best engineers money could buy and rigorously tested to get certified for that massive depth. James even took footage from the sub as his windows were terrible and all you saw was black and sand even with lights on. The submersible went to the Smithsonian for study and their collection although a unused copy went to the explorers society as a museum piece to show the accomplishment. The explorers society actually displays artifacts from exploration and the people who achieved great things or failed but they show what science has accomplished. They even have a rare giant four tusked elephant skull that had a genetic mutation to grow extra tusks along with a photo of the man who discovered it.

[augustuswayne]

This was just a tragedy waiting to happen .

[underwriter]

It’s been reported that the young son onboard had concerns but went down with his Father who was a huge Titanic fan! 😢😢

[ryanhampson]

Yes James Cameron is a director but he’s always been fascinated by the ocean. He is actually a pretty big authority in the submersible community and could be considered an expert. There is a documentary on building the a deep sea challenger and his dive to challenger deep. It’s pretty good. When you watch that and see the engineering they put into that sub and compare it to the Titan it’s like comparing a Lamborghini to a Lada.