Johnny Bench: Pete Rose Shouldn't Be in the Baseball Hall of Fame | The Dan Patrick Show | 7/17/18

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Johnny Bench explains to Dan Patrick why he doesn't believe his former teammate Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame.
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Doesn’t really matter if they hang a plaque on a wall somewhere for Rose, his name will live on forever as one of the greatest of all time.

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They should really induct Joe Jackson posthumously. I know he may have had knowledge of the Black Sox scandal, but the dude hit .375 for the series, had the most RBI's, and even hit the only HR in the series. He maintained his innocence in his career, and at this point, I really think it's long overdue to enshrine Jackson in the HOF.

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Does Johnny Bench tell his kids that if they break the rules, their punishment should last forever?

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Pete Rose isn't in because baseball has a weird code and betting on the game itself is somehow the biggest sin bigger than the racism of former inductees steroid use and other cheating and numerous other bad behaviors it's the imaginary shrine of the game itself Pete Rose as a player should be in there but he won't because baseball cannot get over itself

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I grew up a Dodgers fan and I EFFING HATED the Reds during the 70s, but I and a lot of my friends had a ton of respect for Johnny Bench. He was the greatest.

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Lmao the second they mention or start to mention Hall of Fame, guys like Bench already start rolling their eyes because they know where the interview is going, especially about Rose.

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Pete Rose has such a legacy that it wouldn’t matter if he were inducted into the Hall of Fame.

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You'd never know he was banned if you're familiar with vintage baseball card prices.

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Few people can truly understand just how bad any addiction can cloud your judgement

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Be curious to she what ol' Johnny thinks of the Astros

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This is an important point made by Bench. Gambling got him suspended, but his lack of contrition and continued lies made the ban permanent. I was 10 at the time of the scandal. 10 year old me thought it was all a misunderstanding or that he was framed because the great Pete Rose said he "didn't bet on baseball or Cincinnati Red's baseball". Then decades later he comes out with a book to make money off the fact that he did bet on baseball. And this followed years after making money playin the part of a martyr... No. You don't get to get into the HOF. It's not the initial lie or sin. It is the continued failure to make amends except for when it was in his own self interest

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Disagree. It’s a high level of hypocrisy.

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Unquestionably PETE ROSE deserves to be in the HOF. He was one of the best in history - this is just a fact. PUT HIM IN!!!

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Bench diminished himself taking this absolute stance against Pete Rose going in the HOF. It’s petty. It’s selfish. The real question is WHY BENCH HATES PETE ROSE THAT MUCH.

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I'm 44 now and a Texas Rangers/ Houston Astros fan but as a kid Pete rose was my favorite player. Every time I bought a pack of baseball cards his was the one I was looking for

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I’d pay to see how Johnny talks to Pete

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I am 73 years old, I remember and saw play Mickey Mantle, Jackie Robinson, Roger Maris, Willie Mays, Willie Stargell, Vick Wertz, Roberto Clemente, Johnny Bench, and many more, all greats. The greatest ball player in my lifetime was Pete Rose. As a ball player, Pete had a great influence on me when I played. His dedication to the game, hustle, abilities put him at the top. He is in MY hall of fame!

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Does it really matter anymore if he's in the HoF or not? Not being in is more of a boom for him than if he was. Things have been so watered down lately with some of the recent inductees (good players, not great, who just got in) that being in the HoF is devalued.

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Johnny Bench brings up a good point that most of us had forgotten. Pete Rose had a chance to be forgiven by admitting to sports betting, and that he bet on Reds games, but he kept denying it, and claiming innocence. That’s why he’s not given a second chance to redeem himself, or get in the Hall.

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Absolutely the greatest catcher in my lifetime, nobody else comes close.

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