When Does Biblical Predestination Start?

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[jay]

Yearly check in to remind you that you’ve been a source of huge blessing to me and helped me so greatly. Can’t wait to meet one day.

[FrankFriedrich-lcie]

Ya! The lights are on, but nobody's home, perfect put

[stove]

Really good stuff Kevin. Great wisdom does affirm “don’t assume Gods decrees beyond what’s written”

You’re exactly right it’s men leaning on their fleshly understanding trying to project things out from God that He never said.

[dustinpaulson]

That suit you're wearing in the thumbnail is giving me the feeling that some calvinist is predestined to have their knees whacked.

"Leave the Tulip. Take the cannoli."

[dougrotondi]

We are predestined according to the foreknowledge that we would choose Him out of our free will. He draws, we have the option to choose.

[markridlen]

It's so painfully obvious when you start actually reading the bible with a beginners mind. By asking "what does the bible actually say?" and abandoning anything outside of that.

[jolookstothestars]

Kevin help. Why doesn't Genesis 3:22 cause any problems for calvinists (reformed) guys when it says after the fall God said they know good and evil.

[robotdprinting]

When you said, "The Bible does not say." I was thinking of the word study I in the process of doing on this. "Which God predestined before the ages to our glory, “‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭2‬:‭7‬ ‭LSB‬‬. ”Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world" ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭1‬:‭4‬ ‭LSB‬‬. “In the hope of eternal life, which the God who cannot lie promised from all eternity, ” Titus 1:2 LSB. "This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time, “ ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭1‬:‭9‬ ‭NIV‬‬. "Everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.” Revelation 13:8 LSB. The Lord bless and keep you.

[jennifertallbear]

I see this as you best work, what are Christian s without a sound foundation? What is the result of that? We are encouraged, admonished to press on

[katemcdaniel]

Where would someone with your understanding fellowship in freedom from Calvinism, Arminianism, Provisinism, etc?

[donhaddix]

28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who[i] have been called according to his purpose. 29 For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters. 30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.

[Mattithias]

Calvinists are definitely like NPCs in a video game.

[jimharmon]

Predestination is two roads .
You choose which road you take .
GOD has predestined where each road takes you .
GOD does not make the choice for you that is up to you .

[tommysuriel]

Hey Kevin, can you make video about questions we could ask Calvinists that could help deconstruct calvinism?

[jamesinnitbruv]

How do you interpret 1 Peter 1:2?
"Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied."

[maskofsorrow]

I'm not a Calvinist at all. However I am trying to see the error in the Wesley quote shown here??? There is nothing that God does not know, either now or in eternity past or eternity future. That is clear from the Bible. So God does foreknow how all people who ever existed, would respond to Him. He knew this for all eternity. What am I and Mr Wesley missing on this point?
Great video btw.

[mercinc]

Is there another video where you explain why your view is right. You never explained why predestination happened at conversion.
For your Ephesians verse about being predestined to adoption the previous verse 4 says "he chose us in him before the foundation of the world" and chosen to be holy and blameless (only possible thru Christ). How does the predestination of verse 5 not relate to that.
4 even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love 5 he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

Calvin's arrow should start at God and end at "end times" and should include all that the right arrows have along with "sinner receives Christ"


the point of putting a word in front of grace is to be more specific and I guess that would depend on how you define grace if you define grace as undeserved goodness that is extremely broad and qualifying it is helpful. I'll use your view as an example those who receive Christ are predestined to the things you listed, those things are undeserved goodness from God only given to Christian's you could call them Christian grace or graces the gift of life on the other hand is given to all and could be called common grace. Qualifying grace that way would not be wrong or unbiblical because it is true. unless you have a different definition for grace.

Did God tell Job that he decreed all the things that happened to him or did Job assume that was the case?
Does scripture not specify that God decrees all that happens?
Lamentations 3:37–39
Isaiah 45:7
Isaiah 46:10

[rikvonmn]

Thank you Kevin;

I've had a day man... (being a real boy is scary! And different, and for me emotional - more emotional) than I'm used too. (Because I've suppressed my feelings for the last 23 years.

Some times it's nice to have a break from thinking about real boy problems and remember how STUPID Calvinism is!😅🤣😂

I hope you get that man... Lol.

On a serious note though:

Calvinism is a VERY serious problem for those who are trapped (mentally and emotionally in it)

Reexamining some of my own views it makes me wonder how much of this Augustinian NONSENSE has held me back from growth without even realizing it?

I grew up in a church the was so EXTREMELY opposed to both Calvinism and Arminianism that I never realized how Augustinian... we could really be when examining Rom 6, 7, 8

Which is probably (1) of many reasons it was so hard to get beyond a propositional or procedural stage of sanctification?

🤔 (thinking)

[naturematt]

Can you break down Jack Hibbs sermon Good, Good Sovereignty?

[ButItSays]

Who was predestinated? Those whom He foreknew. Whom did He foreknow? Hop over a couple of chapters to Rom 11:1-2. That “golden chain of redemption” is not about us.