The Psychology of Human Aggression | J. D. Haltigan | EP 464

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Dr. Jordan Peterson sits down with researcher J. D. Haltigan. They discuss his soft cancellation, evolutionary psychopathology, the devouring mother, and the dissociation of atrocity from guilt.

J. D. Haltigan is a researcher in the fields of developmental and evolutionary psychopathology, measurement science, and psychiatric nosology. He has an h-index of 34 and nearly 5,000 citations.

This episode was recorded on July 1st, 2024

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(0:00) Coming up
(0:28) Intro
(5:04) Developmental psychology
(10:03) Psychology of the devouring mother, cluster B pathology
(18:13) Attachment theory and generational failure
(21:23) Proper infant development, the face-to-face still-face paradigm
(34:11) The broader culture has been captured by overprotection
(37:36) How older parents raise their kids
(45:12) The dramatic and frantic search for identity after delayed development
(55:42) Macro-social contagions, why people moralize lies
(1:03:33) The dissociation of atrocity from guilt
(1:08:36) When chimpanzees go to war, the limits of human aggression
(1:15:58) Why J. D. Haltigan was canceled
(1:27:45) What marks the death of the scientific enterprise
(1:31:58) One final horrible hypothesis: pluralism

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I’m an academic. Not only did I have to write a diversity statement for my job, I was asked to revise it AFTER I was hired. The word “tolerance” was “not inclusive enough.” You can’t make this stuff up.

Not sure if this is even discussed here but this is my guy.

Hexadeci
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This is one of my favourite episodes. I like when JBP has someone else who is familiar with psychological literature at a level that is comparable. You get another perspective on relative material.

BPrim-cezw
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I'd like to thank Dr. Peterson for year's of free therapy helpful while poor.

longhairdontcare
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It is important to remember that most people with cluster B personality disorders are completely unaware that they have a cluster B personality disorder.

alexmeier
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In name of the future society, I’m very glad, honored and proud of having people like you!

If I was your son I would be so proud of having the courageous father for keeping standing for what is correct and true. 🙌🏻👏🏼

imnotdiego
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I grew up in the 90s. We played house and wandered through the woods with sticks in our hands pretending we were wizards and knights. We got the entire neighborhood involved. Everyone hung out at our house, and we played video games, but we wanted to play outside more than we played video games. We grew up with anime and still watched it into my 30s. My Dad also kicked our asses if we were disrespectful 😂 i recoil from modern society because it doesnt make sense. Social interaction has become weaponized and trust is breaking down in the workplace. I refuse to leave my home because I dont want to deal with people. I take my son to the park and he has a good life, but I dread speaking with other parents because they are, on average, insane. He isn't in school yet, but Im not looking forward to having to deal with parents and teachers in a modern age. I thought I was cluster B for so long, but I realize that I had a very good childhood, and looking back, i appreciate it more, even though we grew up poor as shit. The incentive structure in our everyday world is the problem, not just online. Im not a doctor or scientist, but I believe that the internet and social media are magnifying the already existing incentive structure and making it easier for psychos to get what they want. People get more attention for behaving like psychos and degenerates, which makes it easier for genius, millionaire psychos to manipulate people. It's not the result of the internet. It was always there, waiting to be unleashed. Technology has been unleashed on us, and we have not caught up to its progress. Maybe im just blind, though. Men have resorted to backstabbing because the cpnsequences for fist fights are 10x what they used to be. We have been neutered by a feminine culture.

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From birth my mother never showed me any love my entire life. To her I was on the same level as a piece of furniture. Ignored and forgotten. It utterly destroyed me for the majority of my life. Thank God for Ayahuasca. First time I ever felt love in my life and its the reason I'm still here.

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Dr. Peterson, I would love to meet you for even an hour. I loved my mother very much, but she had deep, deep issues which resulted from childhood trauma. I think she did her best. But I was an adult raising an alcoholic and prescription abuser at the age of 14. I talked my mother down out of suicide attempts. I still to this day do not know what her official diagnosis would have been, but in all accounts I should be really messed up. I had a grandmother that I looked at like my mother. And my mother was comforting and loving, when she was lucid or okay.

I swore I would never repeat my mother’s mistakes, and while I’m not perfect, I think I have done okay. Attachment theory was very strong to me with my children, but I also knew they needed to fail at times.

My kids right now are happy and healthy, but teens…so there are ups and downs for sure.

This talk is fascinating to me because I do not know how I escaped my childhood relatively unharmed (I mean there is emotional harm for sure)…but I saw therapists on my own when I was old enough and I came to accept that I could never save my mother, but I also wondered for a long time why I wasn’t worth it to her.

I’m just barely into this talk but I had to share.

rachelcornellier
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Dr. Peterson asks the questions our souls desire to be answered

pathlesstaken
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Very nice talk. Jordan, your generosity to provide this functional display of Haltigan's expertise and professionalism for potential employers is not lost. Haltigan's preparation for the interview and execution met your generosity. Bravo to you both and best of luck in the market!

You are loved and cherished by millions.

vtbobm
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Playing outside with friends as a kid, rocked!

whatnew
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I have finally settled down enough to listen and absorb and I’m so glad I did. I just finished the Daily Wire section and I have so much respect for Dr. Haltigan and so much anticipation for Peterson Academy. Loads of thoughts to share but this platform is not permitting me to do so.
You know, Dr. Peterson, in every comment section, there are people who want to talk to you, and I do wonder if Peterson Academy could be a place to earn that. If someone wishing to speak with you could do excellent work and catch your attention that way, wouldn’t that mean a lot to people who have ideas of merit but who haven’t seen their work crowned with success yet? And your encouragement could bolster them to press on, as listening to your lectures encouraged me to do? Something I’ve been thinking about lately.
With Ruth Anne’s love. ❤

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Great guest J. D. Haltigan👍 thank you Dr Jordan Peteterson

carolle
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Huh.

A thing my mother used to do to me a lot was stare at me for long periods of time with a totally blank face while my father mocked me for being uncomfortable. Never knew it was a documented thing before

jonlannister
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“The only lives that truly matter are those who respect the lives of others”.

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I absolutely adore this human being, so blessed to have you on this planet Jordan Peterson

Christian_Princess
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The psychological integrity of the mother (of trans patients) is the subject being ignored in modern instituion.
The mothers are full of unhealed sexual rage and in order to avoid reinvigorating their toxic shame, they deflect vulnerable experiences of sexual development in their children and jump on board with whatever "other" idea the child comes up with. Absolutely toxic abandonment of self for the sake of the Mothers survival.

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In infancy the infant is completely dependent. I don't believe an infants cry should ever be ignored. Not that a parent can't go to the bathroom, prepare a bottle, or grab a diaper. Response should be as prompt as possible. The infant will still cry enough to develop strong lungs. As the infant matures to around 4 months, hopefully, you've got a fairly good schedule on board. This is foundational for secure attachment. Ideally, a mom has help because responding to an infants every need is no easy task, especially if one has other children.

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Outstanding discussion, and such an important one. I hope that J T Haltigan can find some more opportunities to share his knowledge in the world of online education. No smartphones for under 16s would be a big step in the right direction. We all need to spend less time online if possible. I'd even say that one true friend that you can meet and talk to in person is worth a 100 online "friends" that you never actually meet. The scammers are out there in droves too. We are living in an age of insanity in many ways and we have to be watchful and attentive at all times.

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I have a cluster b mother and i tend towards avoidant personality. I love her but I'm convinced something happened to her as a toddler because she behaves just like one, ive gone no contact to save my sanity

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