Why Believing in God is the #1 Worst Thing for Man to Do | Jason Jorjani

Jason Jorjani is a philosopher & author who received his BA , MA & PhD at State University of New York at Stony Brook. Dr. Jorjani has taught courses on Comparative Religion, Ethics, Political Theory, and the History of Philosophy at the State University of New York.

[DannyJonesClips]

Jason Jorjani is a philosopher & author who received his BA, MA & PhD at State University of New York at Stony Brook. Dr. Jorjani has taught courses on Comparative Religion, Ethics, Political Theory, and the History of Philosophy at the State University of New York.

[jessewallaceable]

Belief in the God of the Old Testament is absurd. Belief in a power, a Creator, a Spirit- is on a whole different spectrum. This guest is brilliant btw

[Anidominus]

There is this game called Cyberpunk 2077. You have the freewill to make many decisions in the game. However, it is the games creator that provides the choices. It is the games creator that knows what is going to happen based on the choices you make. You won't know until you experience those consequences.

God is All Knowing because he knows everything that is knowable. He provides you the choice by the nature things are setup. The decisions belong to you. He knows the consequences of the decisions beforehand.

[joetan]

Here's my request for a Jason Jorjani and Wes Huff debate

[ALEZANDAR]

I am not religious nor an atheist! having said that Jason Jorjani is on to something, that in my own personal experience is beyond human comprehension; his perception of God is quite deep actually!! I am a bit disappointed thou, that a man with such eloquence denies the existence of a power beyond his own, and replaces with free will. In my own experience; we are all simultaneously controlled and evolve by a power beyond our own, not just our own free will. To deny that is pure arrogance. A tree can still be a tree; but it wouldn't be a tree, if it denies the existence of what made it into a tree in the first place! I am who I am not because of my own free will, but also the countless other influences that had shaped who I have become.

[Needassistance]

Belief in God is the literal backbone of human society. When these reprobates say these things they literally discount all of human experience. Belief in God is innate to the human creature. It's not deliterious it's foundational.

You can choose to hate God or believe God has no power or any other myriad of beliefs. But God is very real as it relates to the history of mankind.

[crypticnomad]

That is an ancient debate. Hume significantly weakened arguments for the existence of religion, but it’s important to remember that even these critiques are based on human reasoning, which has its own limitations. We can replace "God is omnipotent" with "God is infinite" and arrive at similar conclusions as Jorjani does here. However, I think it’s also crucial to bring up Agrippa and his arguments against scholasticism. Agrippa, a mystic and a skeptic, argued that humans could not possibly reason their way to the divine and that even trying to do so was just an exercise in futility. His skepticism is highly relevant to this discussion because it underscores that both sides of the debate—whether for or against the existence of God—are ultimately relying on human reasoning, which Agrippa would argue is inherently flawed and limited.

This perspective adds depth to the conversation, as it suggests that no matter how rigorous or logical the arguments are, they are all constructed within the bounds of human cognition, which might not be capable of truly understanding the divine or the concept of free will. In this sense, Agrippa’s critique can be seen as a reminder that the very tools we use to debate these issues are themselves subject to doubt.

Furthermore, I think the discussion of free will versus determinism is somewhat incoherent to begin with. It's similar to saying "no context-free truth exists, " which leads to a paradox because if that statement is true, then it is a context-free truth. The same sort of issue lies at the heart of the free will debate. Regardless of whether one claims that an omnipotent god, biology, or some other force controls their actions, or if they believe there is some "little person" in their head pulling the strings like a puppeteer, society treats them as if they are in control of their actions. Violating the law, for example, will most likely lead to punishment. So, practically speaking, regardless of whether we actually have free will, it is as if we do.

By including Agrippa’s skepticism, we can see that the debate over free will and the existence of God may not just be unresolved but potentially unresolvable, given the limitations of human reasoning itself.

[MohanSingh-ugly]

Jason Jorjani actually has deep knowledge on the truth

[Axafolis]

Logic and reason is a scary thing for some

[sirchadiusmaximusiii]

I was never religious. I played in bands like Danny when I was 16-20. Now a little older I see how some people never grow. Never grow out of crap music, never grow out of edgy teen angst. I would much rather be friends with a Christian stranger than past “hardcore” friends I’ve had and that’s a fact.

[wzupppp]

What if you chose your life but you cant remember it?

[ashcomics]

God's omniscience encompasses all dimensions of time—past, present, and future—and extends to the choices we would freely make under any circumstances. This absolute knowledge is an essential attribute of the Divine, without which God would not fulfill the definition of divinity. A critical misunderstanding, particularly highlighted by Jason Reza, lies in conflating God's foreknowledge with determinism. He fails to distinguish between God's perfect awareness of our actions and the responsibility for those actions. The autonomy granted to humanity through free will is a fundamental tenet of divine justice, allowing us to choose our paths independently. The fact that God foresees our choices does not imply that He chooses them; rather, it underscores His transcendence and the integrity of our moral agency. The Quran unequivocally affirms that God has endowed us with free will, and it is through the exercise of this free will that we will ultimately determine our own eternal destinies.

[sebastiencormier]

He hasn't considered the possibility of infinite timelines. The timelines could be scripted but the choices we make constantly shift which timeline we are in. Like an enormous library of pre written books where you can open a different book with an alternative narrative at any time.

[jameshirt]

It's all good buddy, I thought the same way. You haven't experienced bad enough times. From where you are now you can't imagine what the bottom will be like. That's where I found him at least. I ain't gonna argue. I know

[glennc]

The complexity of the human body and the vastness of the Universe should be enough to believe in God.

[keviniverson]

You can believe whatever you want the truth doesn't care what you believe

[levlz]

I love how controversial this topic is and how emotional people respond to this idea…the Bible is not what you think it is…

[shturmovik]

Exactly…you don’t have free will, you only think you do.

[allon]

God has given us Jason and his word. Boom 💥

[chrisshore]

You forgot God is also timeless. He’s outside time.

If I know what you did yesterday does that mean you had no free will?