Alex O'Connor vs Frank Turek | The Moral Argument DEBATE

I had another opportunity to visit Premier Christian Radio (link to full show below) and debate popular Christian apologist Frank Turek on the moral argument for God's existence. The camera on Justin (the host) cut out around half way through the video, and so there is only one angle from there on out.

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[mikecarter]

College campuses are a breeding ground for skepticism? Yeah, we call that education.

[samuelbcn]

All credit to a Christian radio station which is prepared to have a really open and intelligent discussion that goes to such intellectual depths with a non-believer.

[cristian_]

This debate isn’t fair because Alex has a British accent, instantly making all of his points 30% more credible

[GeneticallyModifiedSkeptic]

*Alex makes a point that they can't refute* WELL LETS NOT GET OFF TOPIC HAHAHA GREAT HAVING YOU ON THE SHOW

[torinux]

It's always refreshing watching a debate/discussion/talk as polite as this one.

[dippy]

(Paraphrasing)
Alex: 'Reasoning is subjective'
Turek: 'Is that objectively true?'
Damn, that was good.

[gabeholmes]

the host better give alex some more fuckin time than the last video

[stevecortes]

What I loved, though, was all the respect exchanged in this debate.

[TadValente]

"Humor and ridicule have its place, but if you want to make a change, you'll have to take them seriously."
More insightful of a quote than you think it is. Brilliant debate.

[elohellqqz]

Absolutely brilliant, it is really impressive that at your age, you are able to express yourself in such accuracy.

[lukevitale]

I didn’t know Gordon Ramsey produced podcasts

[michaelbedford]

Alex is an exceptional person.
If as he says, he is in the middle of his 'A level' exams, then he is at max,
just turned 18 and probably 17.
Amazing.

[laloj]

I remember watching this years ago as an atheist, now I’m a Christian. I would’ve never thought I’d end up here

[vanderkarl]

I think it's absolutely fascinating that one of the core disagreements between Alex and Frank comes down to an ancient debate regarding the philosophy of mathematics which mathematicians still hotly debate today: "Is math invented or discovered?"

[gewoongeert_]

Hi Alex, I just found out about your channel 12 hours ago and i'm still watching cause it seems I'm in the same boat as you in terms of (dis)belief. Is there any chance of you talking to Frank Turek again in the future? Since I really love how Frank Turek explains things, I think this is the best video I've seen so far and would absolutely love to see you talk to him again. Especially about your struggle on divine hiddenes. My guess is that Frank is pretty good at explaining a matter like that.

[malirk]

7:10

Evil exists
Thus good exists
Thus God exists because God is a standard

What I find interesting about this argument is that if God is the standard, God doesn't meet his own standard. Saying there is an objective morality means that God would need to follow it. God kills babies multiple times in the Bible. If this isn't objectively wrong, this God isn't worth worshipping.

I told this to Matt Slick and he said God doesn't have to go by a standard.
Guess what... you just made your morality subjective.
QED

[skepticalphilip]

He called the microphone atheist because it doesn't believe in god.

Are we sure he even knows the difference between a being with consciousness and an inanimate object is?

[jkenwell]

27:08 incidentally the Bible doesn't condemn sexually abusing children as wrong anywhere. That is one of my arguments against 'the Bible', which specifically speaks of and categorizes all sorts of sexual activities, but is silent on child molestation. In my opinion, that is an argument against the divine origin of the Bible.

[heatherlewis]

One of the best debates I've seen. Both persons respectful and thoughtful.

[miguelangelopate]

Hey Alex, I am a Christian and I love listening to you speak! Thank you for pushing back on a staggeringly brilliant level. Keep up the amazing work.