8kHz and 4kHz Polling Rate Mice Are a Bit of a Scam

Should you upgrade to a gaming mouse with 4k or 8k polling? Can high polling rate mice actually improve your aim?

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[Condred]

The fact that you have to go through all this effort just to tell if it's even making a difference in the first place says all you need to know about high polling rates.

[phutrinh]

10% CPU usage just for mouse. this technology comes from future. LOL

[MaskedOG]

Polling is the last thing you should worry about. get a good system and a great monitor. a keyborad, table and chair that is comfortable. And even then a mouse shape is king. if you found all that you get your polling/dpi upgrades. And then just hope it is implemented well.

[janmagtoast]

I just max out my dpi and then "downscale" it with rawaccel to be 800. So I get the most amount of updates without having to change how I aim really.

[miscwork-qbpd]

I think it's again worth mentioning that increasing polling rate does not always reduce latency, they are often strongly correlated but not the same

[TvvSteR]

Games are unplayable until 10k polling rate and 50k dpi becomes standard.

[chengong]

you need to have someone else do your polling rate change, otherwise knowing which you picked could influence the result.

[olufadihaneefullah]

I'm using a razer basilisk at just 1khz polling and my cpu usage rose by 10% from just moving the mouse. I don't think that's an accurate measure for why the performance dipped. Mouse movements use up CPU resources normally

[Beadlock_]

I’d really like to see the OP18K compared with being wired, and if that makes any changes!

[giff]

Very good insights about the CPU usage and the FPS. When I got my X2H I messed around their 4k dongle and even after I adjusted the dpi and in game sen I couldn't get things to feel "right".

[Squilfinator]

The other thing to note is the impact a higher polling rate has on battery life of the mouse (if it's wireless) when it may not even be hitting the threshold that is advertised

[Seepling]

7:43 im on a 4th gen Xeon cpu (effectively a i7) when using 8khz on DAV3 wired cpu usage jumps from 6% idle to 53% when moving the mouse

[Barely_Creative]

This was a really good, comprehensive video that covered all of the questions I could think to ask and even a few that I didn't think to ask. I really feel like I walked away from this having learned something. Thanks!

[shaiuxx]

On a dual cipset CPU you need to use ReserveCPUSets to block windows from running the USB driver on the CCD1 to get rid of the FPS drops.

I can use 8k on my 7950X3D due to that without any FPS drops as the USB driver runs on CCD2 without interfering with the game.

[advancegeo]

ive been looking at the end game gear op1 8k as a replacement for my g pro superlight, i came to realize that due to the shape of the GPS it was forcing my fingers to grip it at certain locations that worsen my aim limiting my skill ceiling and making it so when i was going to click on targets i was shaking ever so slightly due to the awkward tension of me holding the mouse non optimally. Shape is king

[omerakgoz]

3200 DPI is the sweat spot for everything. Polling rate, sensor accuracy, input latency, motion accuracy etc...

I tested my mouse polling rate and motion data while doing small flicks and micro adjustments. The results are terrible. Motion data looks like 8-bit and even 1600 DPI is not enough. It started to look smooth enough only after trying 3200 DPI. Also playing with 3200 DPI actually feels smoother when doing such small aim adjustments.
I can set windows sensivity to match exactly to 800 DPI. I can set in-game sensivity to match the same 40 cm/360 sensivity with just 0.1 sens. I can set it even lower if I want.

I still don't understand why pro players play on 800 DPI.

*Edit: Also 1600 DPI is fine too if you don't want 3200 DPI. Still much better than 800 DPI anyway.*
*3200 DPI is better especially with MotionSync.*

[moskitoh]

That was actually a really useful test from point of view of the end user.

[markod]

When you speak, we listen. Keep on making such high quality content. I rate your channel by integrity and content way up there with the best, like gamers nexus and hardware unboxed. 😮Bis zum nächsten video! 👍

[joshdeconcentrated]

These mice aren't scams. The polling rate shouldn't be used as a standalone statistic, but rather a good representation of the general tech in the mouse. When a company is willing to push something like polling rate as far as 8khz in wireless form, you can also start to expect really good build quality, weight, clicks, coating, and skates. And this is the trend that we've seen over the years, with razer getting lower weights on mice while still retaining great build quality, improving their coating, etc.

The polling rate isn't worth it alone, sure, but there are no longer any 1khz mice that are coming out today that could compete with the viper v3 in terms of general quality.

At the end of the day, shape is king though.

[thetetchy]

I had PTSD when you started talking about T-tests.