Ben Shapiro’s RAGE FUELED MELTDOWN At Bernie Sanders | The Kyle Kulinski Show

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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers — loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.

“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”

The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on YouTube. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.

“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”

But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news — the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.

It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.

“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”

With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on YouTube, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do — even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.

While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.

But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks — who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago — the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.

Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king — the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.

I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”

And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”

Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”

It’s probably for the best — the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all — class issues,” he said on a recent episode.

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Reminder that in 2019 Ben Shapiro backed out of a debate with Kyle at Politicon.

LarryR
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If Ben Shapiro hates it, then it must be good. If Ben's losing it and panicking, then we must be on the right track.

jackjohnson
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As an Australian, hearing right-wing americans scream about how "radical" and "evil" socialism is makes me laugh so much it hurts. When they scream over and over that universal healthcare is impossible and it just doesn't work... I don't know how you normal people in America can even handle living with them. Thank you for enduring them and continuing to try and make the USA a better place.

rmelzhim
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“That’s weird, since you’re a socialist!”

That’s not really the burn you think it is, especially in the rest of the world.

Anglomachian
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Ben Shapiro, in his tier rankings of Presidents, had Donnie at a tier rank higher than Teddy Roosevelt. Think about that for a moment.

tomvu
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Ben Shapiro twisting the facts and flat out lying to support his personal feelings? In other news, water is wet.

DarkInugami
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If Hillary picked "her Tim Walz", a.k.a. Bernie, she would've won.

Glad Kamala is at least willing to learn from the past. 👍👏🎉🎉♥️♥️

dvdv
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Ever since Jon Stewart went after Ben Shapiro, I can't listen to Shapiro speak anymore without just thinking "Okay, squeaks."

whensomethingcriesagain
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Ben Shapiro thinks he's smart. He's about as smart as Jared Kushner.

andrew
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Add more liberal judges to the SC until they vastly outnumber conservatives and I bet Ben has a change of heart on term limits real quick

G.GordonMidi
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To Ben Shapiro, a “radical policy” is any policy that is incredibly popular, moral, effective, and actually helps people. Ben is just weird and doesn’t speak the same language as the rest of us.

elisawhitman
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You know Ben is upset when he get's outta his highchair to complain.

bigcrazewolf
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They are okay with Automatic Selective Service processes but are against Automatic Voter Registrations! Insanity!

Abel_GTx
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If Israel is so important to Ben why doesn't he live there.

SeamusMcFitz-jzif
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Shapiro misses something.." Is radical to see 13 well known republicans endorsing Kamala Harris in public"

Weiwuwei
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“Most radical change in the structure of government since the 60s, no the progressive era, no the end of the civil war” uh Ben those were all very positive changes to the structure of government

flyingbicycles
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You're determination to not talk to advertisers is commendable! I really respect that about you Kyle! I've been listening for 10 years. You actually have principles that money can't change. Those are REAL principles.

milanowns
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can we call ben shapiro an anti-semite for smearing bernie? 😂

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"When I'm enraged at the Socialist Populist agenda of people like Bernie Sanders, I like to quench that rage with a tall, cool Budweiser." -Ben Shapiro.

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"Protect the kids in school! No we're not going to feed them even though it's mandatory to be there!"

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