What Makes a Leader?

More and more individuals follow the exile. Kreia explains that the exile contains a trait very similar to how Revan commanded such loyalty from the soldiers that followed him.

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[MrLGD]

Kreia: “ I speak with a voice that does not move others”. Trust me, you moved a whole generation into playing this game and watching clips of you on YouTube with voice alone. Best character of all time

[smithsonianproject]

“I am but a mirror, who’s purpose is to show you what your own eyes can not yet see” quotes like this is why Kreia is one of my favorite characters

[anodyne]

Kreia doesn't give herself enough credit.

[sriramramesh]

This is just another reason to love Kreia. She has so much wisdom, yet she comes off so rude to such a point that the player(and by extension the Exile) don't tend to understand her lessons. She was specifically *designed* to be a bad teacher, and she herself knows that it is one of her flaws. "I am no leader. I will not speak with a voice that will move others. I speak with a passion that goes unheard."

[DarkWarrior]

“I’m too old to make friends.” I can relate and plus you’ve earned my respect Kreia. I took you for granted when I was young but now I understand you completely.

[GorNaKat]

Kreya has SO MUCH pure distilled wisdom...
No joke, i think i have somehow changed after carefully listening to her and learning what she had to teach. Not in just this one video, but throuought the whole dedicated playthrough.

[buntado]

"Do friends not follow? Do friends not form hierarchy of their own, no matter how small the circle?" Holy shit this is true... in all groups of friends I've been a part of, there had always been an inherent recognition of who the alpha is.

[Maniac]

"I speak with a passion that goes unheard."

Nonsense. Your passion echoes within every fiber of my being, even to this very day.

[Rockhard]

and then The Old Republic came and took all of this beautifully crafted lore and dialogue, and threw it all out the window for some stock, trite, 2-dimensional bad guy with the most unimaginative name of "the Sith Emperor."

Bioware seems to have a knack for creating great franchises and then destroying them so utterly. This game was such a masterpiece, created this amazing mystery with Revan, the temple at Malachor V, the how's and why's of it all... all to be ruined by a cheap World of Warcraft clone with lightsabers.

[Intrcoptr]

Kotor 2: "Revan met no Sith Empire, yet he learned their teachings"
swtor: *"i'm about to end this man's whole career"*

[bendakstarkiller]

Sub added man. In my eyes you join the highly-esteemed Kot0R legends, such as Shem L and TehPrincessJ. Thank you for bringing these memories back to me. May the Force be with you!

[ShamanMcLamie]

Kreia is such an amazing character. She's not super cool looking. She's rather mundane looking. She's no bombshell, she's an old lady. She's not kind and friendly, she's jaded and abrasive. For most of the game she isn't the most impressive fighter. Yet she leaves an enormous impression on the player and is regularly praised as one of Star Wars greatest characters. She subverts and questions many of the ideas and tropes within Star Wars, but where Jake and The Last Jedi fails, Kreia and KotOR II succeed because it is done so in a way believable to the character and world. The writing of the character makes you wholly believe that Kreia's ideas are her own. You believe this old woman is a Jedi, a trained force user and has lived a life time in the galaxy far far away. When she challenges your perception of the galaxy, the light side, the dark side, and the Force itself you believe these ideas are real to that world. You feel it makes total sense she would believe what she tells you and not a mouth piece for the writer, which she was. The Last Jedi feels like a movie trying to be more clever than it is. Because they haven't built up the galaxy, or taken the time to develop the characters to their new state a lot of what is said doesn't feel like it's coming from that world, but is taking advantage of the meta. Roses whole spiel about the arms dealers has no context in the world of TLJ so it feels like a commentary on the real world and it breaks the illusion this Galaxy really exists. When Luke goes on his tirade about why the Jedi should end he talks about things the audience would know about the Jedi from the Prequels, but why would Luke? Why would Luke who venerated the Jedi say such things about them and believe they should end? The movie abuses the meta and what the audience already knows and it breaks suspension of disbelief when it does so. The message doesn't feel like it comes from Luke, but the director. KotOR II challenges popular conceptions about Star Wars and what people believe about that universe, but it doesn't take for granted what people know about Star Wars when it directly challenges it and they weave the subversion into the fiction instead of replacing it with it.

[mongojrttv]

I ALWAYS sought Kreia's council, after every expedition.

[kronoscamron]

the thing she said about identifying fracture points and striking that power will come back.
I don't think many appreciate how this is one of the deep esoteric secrets of cult psychology in real life.

[Cailus]

That is one of the most unique aspects of Kreia as a Sith: self-awareness. She has the wisdom to know herself without ego or preconception, and therefore to understand the Jedi and the Sith as they truly were. The greatest irony was that for all Kreia’s wisdom, there were two things whom she completely failed to understand, despite devoting everything she had to understanding them: Meetra Surik after her rejection of the Force, and the Force itself. It was fitting that those two things would then be her downfall, and the downfall of her teachings.

Goddamn, the writing and voice acting is incredible.

[ChPonsard]

"I speak with a passion that goes unheard"

Was thinking about that again today. Had to come here.

[Srindal]

What I learnt from this game, strength isn't always taking everything for yourself from others, it's about finding your own road to strength.

[mjniceu]

Kreia is the pinnacle of Star Wars excellence. She is absolutely brilliant and her philosophies will echo through the generations of all those who have the ear to listen.

[sirpepeofhousekek]

Another thing that pisses me off about the Revan novel and SWTOR: Kreia is implying that Revan learned the ways of the Sith from Malachor V here, and that he chose to become a Sith, he did not fall. That makes for a much more interesting character than simply being mind controlled by a bigger Mary Sue than Rey.

[chrishaugen]

Gods, Kreia was such an amazing character. Too bad it was all ruined in the beast that is The Old Republic