Star Trek Nemesis Review: What Went Wrong?

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[TacoWrath]

If you count Galaxy Quest as a Trek film, then the even-odd number theory still holds up, lol.

[josephnash]

To me the greatest weakness of ST Nemesis is that it fails to provide a credible reason for Shinzon to want to destroy Earth. i would have instead had him try to lead the Remans in the destruction of Romulus in an effort to gain the approval of his "Father" Picard whom he invites to witness the destruction of the Federation's greatest remaining enemy. Picard feels morally obligated to prevent the genocide of the Romulans on the grounds that even if they are the are the enemies of the Federation, they are still a people. The Romulans have an ancient civilization that for all its defects is intrinsically valuable. This would have given a credible motive to Shinzon who had been enslaved by the Romulans and greatly deepened the conflict between him and Picard.

[carlrood]

One of the great touches to Wrath of Khan is that Kirk and Khan never met in person. They spoke over the viewscreen and the communicator a couple of times, but most of it was them trying to outthink each other. It's similar toe Balance of Terror in that regard, and that's one of my favorite TOS episodes.

Also there was no real connection between Shinzon and Picard. They were strangers with the same DNA.

[jantomasek]

Despite all weaknesses, I have a very privileged place in my heart for ST Nemesis, because it was the last true ST movie. Star Trek definitely died in 2005 after the 4th season of Enterprise.

[lesigh]

Picard shot and killed a temporal copy of himself in a TNG episode to free the enterprise from a time loop. He didn't seem traumatised, and that was HIM, not a clone, a version of him from a day into his own future.

[Tyranidus]

One thing that I have just realized is what would have really helped the film is reiterating the point from Generations that his family have all died, his brother, sister-in-law, and nephew all died in a fire and that film showed Picard's wish for family. That film ended with his crew being more his family but this movie could have used Shinzon as Picard's last chance at youth/having a son. They could have added this fact to connect Shinzon and Picard, Shinzon obviously wanted to get close to Picard for sabotage but also genuine curiosity of his "creator", but Picard didn't really have a reason other than, "Oh he's my clone raised by a brutal enemy empire I should care." there needed to be more. To bring back Picard's family tragedy would have helped.

[stiimuli]

The biggest problem I had with every TNG movie after Generations was that - for some bizarre reason - Geordi was replaced by Picard as Data's dearest friend. This felt entirely wrong to me. I get that Picard is the main character and Geordi generally a supporting cast member but rewriting this important relationship seems a really bad narrative choice.

[arioch]

Watching Nemesis, I was wondering if it was a result of the cast sitting around with notepads saying 'You know what? I always wanted <character> to do <insert strange or absurd action here>. Picard was suddenly Jim Kirk-ish while off roading and such, the actions of so many folks in this movie just seemed out of place compared to what came prior. Picard making a joke at Riker's expense on the Bridge and other situations just seemed incongruous.

[comicsgatekeeper]

His utter hatred felt a bit left field after being initially very curious and welcoming to picard.He total determination to kill the enterprise was also a bit "where the fuck did that come from?"The emotional depth they were trying for at shinzon's death felt unearned like they were trying force the audience to be sad for a character we really didn't know well enough.There are no shortcuts to empathy I'm afraid

[keithmitchell]

When I first watched this film I could not understand how they could just fix B4 without thinking of Data's other brother Lore. It seems that they simply forgot all about him and what he did.

[fernarias]

There were so many "why" when I watch this film in 2002 but the biggest one was, "why is a young academy picard bald".

[gpalmerify]

Dave, I owe you a debt of gratitude about your videos about the WEF/Great Reset. You were way out in front of the implementation of all the tyrannical bioweapon measures and your expert guests were absolutely right. Now my plea again to you to contact Nerdrotic for a long anticipated Friday Night Tights guest spot!

[Corbomite-eity]

There are sooo many holes in the story.
One example: when the ship is so easily invaded, why didn’t they activate the force-fields in the corridors? They did so many times in the series….and …also later in the same film!! Geordie deactivates the field to blow Data out into space 🤪

[MatthiasPowerbomb]

With Star Trek V, the line "What does God need with a starship?" is worth the cost of admission alone. Fight me.

[JackIsMe]

Nemesis....this is why you back up your Data!!!

[tatersquad]

Nemesis is still 100x better than any modern Trek.

[TheSt]

Nemesis is very villainccentric and that is its' biggest problem. Tom Hardy and Patrick Stewart make the best of a pretty thin script . The actiion sequences do hold up I though on a technical level and the set design for the Romulan Senate is spectacular.

[projektkobra]

RLM had a great point about needing Hardy to be bald to be Picard for the hoi polloi non-Trekkie audience..even though we know Picard had his hair in the Academy.

[jeebuschristos]

9:34 Star Trek: Nemesis was criticised as being an "inferior Wrath of Khan"... only to have JarJar Abrams show up and say: "Hold my Romulan Ale" with Into Darkness...

[kakashidragon]

A good call back/mirror would have been when Picard stabbed Shinzon, Shinzon looked down at the wound and started laughing. And that would have let Picard see it from the other side.