Gracie Combatives vs Sport Jiu Jitsu | Hack Check Podcast Clips

Gary King Discusses the different ideologies of the Gracie family that lead to the 2 types of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

[robertical]

You actually don't get a blue belt after the test, you get a combatives belt. Then, another 100 classes with real rolling before you can get the blue belt.
I can tell you that all the training before rolling makes it so much safer for everyone. Nothing more dangerous than a beginner after watching UFC and wanting to join a BJJ gym.

[sr]

Ryron Gracie survived in his match against Andre Galvao who was a former adcc champ, so although they don't focus on sport fighting, I don't think it's fair to say they can't compete in sport matches

[christiangerhardt]

What an awesome coach and mentor this man is.

[MartinJefferies-jd]

Michael Bishop said it best "it's hard to do jiu-jitsu when you are getting punched in the face." I infer that he was referring to sport jiu jitsu and not the kind of self-defense jiu-jitsu that Rickson and Royce practiced.

[mattmarkey]

Sparring with brown and black belts on my first day led to me training 17 years. Everyone is different and knowing whether to make someone skip rolling in the beginning or kicking their ass on the first day is all part of being a great instructor!

[Basta]

Its like taking a ramp vs taking the stairs. A 20 year old, single, aggressive, motivated dude will be better in the regular Jiu Jitsu, roll the first day. Its okay, your body can heal faster, you have energy, and likely not much responsibilities other than taking care of yourself.

A 35 year old with a wife and 2 kids, needs to ease into it more. Can't afford to get injured and miss work. Body is not what it used to. Acquiring the skill efficiently is of higher priority, less reliance on energy and aggression.

[DouglasJones-nb]

The original blue Belt (when the belt system was introduced in the 1940's), a blue belt had to be able to defend themselves against a non bjj opponent. At Gracie University, you earn your Combatives belt for this achievement. You then spend an additional 6 months learning BJJ vs BJJ to obtain your blue belt and the other belts. The purpose is to keep the original goal of self-defense and to keep that street switch active regardless of the skill level of your opponent.
You don't roll until you are a Combatives belt, because they want you to build proper reflexes upfront without developing bad habits that you will struggle to eliminate later.
80 classes for Combatives Belt (108-216 recommended practice sessions at home [online])
6 month wait time for Blue (regardless of home or Academy)
8 months for each additional stripe (at the Academy) without stringent testing. (No wait for Blue Belt Stripes [online method], but stringent testing for each stripe. 6 months for Purple Belt Stripes [also online method] with stringent testing.

[macaluso]

I'm helio and Gracie university side and I come from Carlson Gracie first they did self defense to but I much prefer the Gracie Ctc but I like the sparring and sport side as well the chess mental game but self defense is much more the focus

[neurozero]

80 classes for me will be 10 months worth of bjj. thats a long time before i am allowed to roll

[davidcarik]

Bas Rutten said something to the effect of "If I can fight with rules, do you think I can't fight if I took them all away?" I think it has to do with intensity. The GJJ class (combatives) starts out pretty chill and gets you to learn the techniques. The GC class doesn't have intense warm ups and rolling. Sport type BJJ classes are physically more intense and guys start rolling right away. Most GC guys probably couldn't perform very well (initially) in a more sport type competition BJJ class.

[gjwmsu]

there is some rolling for white belts in the reflex development classes

[macaluso]

Sport jiu jitsu also carries way higher risk of injury and turns ppl away since most have no solid tech in the beginning I'm 35 coming to end of my prime eventually I don't need 22 year old wrestler who only cares about competition and I like wrestling but unless u do mma the average person ain't wrestling and after college not worth the high risk of injury