What if the Ottoman Empire Survived? | Alt History

An alternate history of the Ottoman Empire in which it survives World War 1 and goes on to reform into a successful, modern state.

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[georgios_]

One thingy to note. Oil wouldn't necessarily make the country more advanced. We've seen time and time again how corrupt and inefficient countries tend to be ruined even more when many resources are found on their lands.

[supremeleaderdracovish]

Ottoman Empire: Gets a better nickname "The Empire of Oil"
America: Invasion Time.

[joshfish]

this actually seems pretty damn accurate! First time I've seen an alternate history map that isn't wildly inaccurate (from what we can surmise) also only really goes into about 20 years in the future since 1914 making it more likely to be accurate. A few small issues I have though:

-there's no way the German monarchy would've survived, especially when they had links to starting the war. I don't see any scenario where the allies would've tolerated keeping the German monarchy around, and I don't see the Germans themselves being that interested either. It'd likely just be a Weimar Republic still, but slightly better off than our version, especially when the war ended earlier thus losing less stability and resources.

-the great depression would've still caused the rise of extremism, as it did in many European countries. Whilst in this timeline Weimar Germany might be slightly less punished (I'm not even entirely sure about that) it's still very eh, with whether that would've been enough to stop the rise of Nazism

-Saudi (back then called Sultanate of the Nejd and al Hasa) was a protectorate and ally to the British as well since about 1912. With this in mind, plus the massive disadvantage to Britain's access, affordability and control, to allow the post WWI Ottoman Empire from essentially having a monopoly over much of the world's oil, Britain would not allow the Ottoman Empire to annex this smaller version of Saudi. They'd likely go to war if the Ottomans attempted to annex the region, because it'd have MASSIVE implications against Britain's interests.

Obviously it's hard to accurately project there to as far as 2021, but I suppose an eventual devolution of the Ottoman sultan's powers into a full (and hopefully, stable) constitutional monarchy, plus being less brutal to their minorities with having the nationalism but implementing pluralism as well, could possibly have saved the empire. At the very least, we'd probably just see a slow federalisation/breakup of the empire in less chaotic fashion, and have the modern nation of Turkey (now Türkiye) probably still being named 'Ottoman Empire' or 'Ottoman State' or something in today's maps.

[Szpareq]

Just discovered your channel, wanted to say I love your videos. Those are the best map alt-hist videos on YouTube, history actually makes sense which is quite uncommon here lol.

[gamma]

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[CombineGeography]

I think the country would be rebranded as the "Kingdom of Turkey". The royal family wasn't really popular among the people, especially after Abdulhamid II suspended the constitution and the parliament in 1878. After the Empire became a constitutional monarchy again in 1908, a lot of people supported a republic (which became reality 15 years later), although most of the state officials thought constitutionalism was enough.

[earthball]

In this timeline historians ask: what if the ottoman empire joined the central powers? Then draw our timelines ww1 peace treaty

[jmaxgamer]

Nice video. Could you do, “ What if Austria unified Germany? “

[couchdoggo]

is it just me or is this a better timeline then the current one? (oh yeah 100th comment woo!)

[BritishRoyalMapping]

I’m assuming because there was no WW2, UK, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Holland, and denmark would still have their colonies. And the world superpowers being USA, UK, France and maybe the Ottomans and maybe Russians

[fh]

Good video but I find it highly unlikely that the ottomans would join the entent without territory expansion when they could stay neutral not lose land and not lose soldiers

[SUPABROS]

can you do another version, where you go back a few hundred years in the Battle of Vienna, then make the ottomans win? The only reason the ottomans lost was because they didn't have anything to stop them from encircling the army, so if they made trenches or a wall they could have won, My theory is that France and the Ottoman Empire will be superpowers, and both are allied, which makes them beasts.

[india-curry]

so highly summarised up- the ottomans dont collapse because they buy 2 ships

[zyairjames]

Hey can you please do what if the usa made Japan a state after world war 2

[owenrussell]

Since this land is all the middle East and what is now saudia Arabia would this effect the events of 9/11 I'm not that caught up about my knolsge of the middle East all I know one of the middle eastern counties did it

[USSFFRU]

The fact this was possible if Enver Pasha did not attack Russia.

[samiiiyusufff]

could you do what if the ottomans conquered vienna?

[toainsully]

We would never see T.E. Lawrence's deeds in the Arabian Deserts

[PaoloCavestro-eybb]

What if Ottomans had adopted the cult of Makima, Revy, Cutie Honey, Marin Kitagawa, Trixie Tang, Judy Neutron, Marge Simpson, Wendy Corduroy, Lois Griffin, Sailor Moon and Maddie Fenton instead of Abrahamic shit?

[oskaranddaniel]

There is an image of Harun Osman but to be fair I can see why you didn't use it