1 year later - Did the Huawei ban work?

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The Huawei ban was announced over a year ago. Did it work? - The Story Behind - ep. 68

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[TechAltar]

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[margarethawinarto]

The US did the same thing to Japan in the 80s. Once a bully always a bully.

[Nevercholt]

I wrote my Master's thesis about this topic :D Always nice to see your perspective on this!

[febinfiroz]

If huawei beats the systems
Then it will be the biggest middle finger to us.
Waiting for it

[RayMak]

When you bully, you invite your friends to join the bully, but not all friends agree to jump into the bandwagon. So you force the neutral kids to bully with you at gunpoint...

[ebr]

Imagine Huawei devices having Google services they will stay at the top for many years but I'm a big supporter even tho I'm not in China and I'll keep buying their products

[pakhoe]

Have this conversation again in 12 months time and lets see where Huawei is at? Maybe impossible for a EU or US company, but Huawei is Chinese, and Chinese are known for their resilience. Long run the losing side will be the US and EU as this has forced the Chinese to manufacture their own Chips and in time they will get and reach TSMC capabilities. China will not allow it's high tech business to be bullied by the US and EU. I am convinced Huawei will overcome this period and come out of this.

[jackzg]

"What does not kill you will make you stronger."

[evertonc]

This is a dangerous move to say the least, it's definitely a hard job for Huawei to battle this ban but if they survive and manage to work around this they'll basically be the most independent phone and networking company in the world.

[pipboy]

The arrest of Huawei founder’s daughter spells “Alstom acquisition by GE” all over for me.

[AZetorA]

I dont know man, i certainly want huawei to survive and being out there to compete, but one thing the US doesnt like is competition....despite the fact that it is a pure driving force for better pricing, innovation, and quality.

[HIDCOMMY]

One country Vs One company and they still trying after one year. Jokes on America.

[someonek]

Watching this on my Huawei phone, from USA

[AtlanticPicture]

To paraphrase Dom: The problem with putting your foot on Huawei's neck is you can never let it up.
Don't know if the ban was justified or not. Either way the US has a relatively small potential customer base, and it was clear from the start that losing that, and suppliers (even if those are important) only will force Huawei to become self sufficient, and to focus on other regions. They likely have the money, manpower, and facilities for it, or already working on it.

[AndroidFerret]

Germany still.has Huawei smartphones like p30 and p40 .. Huawei is allowed to keep Google support for 5 years ...

[CarthagoMike]

The USA is very much aware of Huawei's chip issue. They've repeatedly tried to block sales of chip-making machines by ASML to Chinese chip manufacturers in fear of a Chinese TSMC rising up.

[michaelutech]

I find the US strategy quite questionable. First I don't trust US manufacturers any more than Chinese manufacturers and I guess that this is basically the reason why many countries will not go along with US sanctions regarding network equipment. It might actually encourage them to provide local alternatives for both Chinese and US products in the long run. It would probably have been more productive to enforce more transparency and implement more rigorous regulation to enforce security of network devices instead of just banning Huawei.

It might be difficult for Huawei to replace both Android and domestically produce their hardware, but in both instances they will almost certainly succeed with their gigantic local market, especially considering that Chinese consumers can be quite effectively coerced to prefer Huawei. While evaluating the dependency on Google might do some short term benefit, the price is that this dependency is no longer there in the aftermath and instead a new platform will become a competitor for Google and remove the control Android as a platform provides to the US. It might also push other manufacturers to switch to Huawei's platform and further weaken the US. It's stupid to overlook that sanctions against a country controlling 1.5 billion consumers might not be very sustainable. All Huawei needs is a small armada of translators in order to have a sufficient number of developers for all international markets. No US company has that much scalability.

If Huawei will be allowed at a later time to reenter the US market, they will be much more independent and thus dangerous than they might be now. And of course there will be no regulation that ensures a certain level of trustworthiness.

I believe it would have been much wiser to keep the dependencies alive and use them to impose regulations instead of burning bridges and ignoring the fact that rivers can be crossed by other means.

[TheDivinepromise]

But amidst all these hurdles, with some stroke of luck, if Huawei somehow manages to manage all these and survive, they will become much more than their competitors. Remember the quote “necessity is the father of innovation”. If they succeed, they will emerge stronger.

[AdvexonTV]

Meantime, Samsung is enjoying the battle...

[billlee]

From the Huawei ban, many more international companies will pay more attention to their own risk management; especially, to decouple dependency on US technologies. It's definitely not a good sign for the US high tech firms in the long term.