Did The X-Men Rip Off Doom Patrol

This is a short history of the Doom Patrol comics and team with an especially close look at two of the longer runs: the initial one by Arnold Drake and Bruno Premiani and Grant Morrison's run with Richard Case. Doom Patrol has had many iterations but the ones that seem to work best are the ones that go as weird as possible. It's a team of outcasts and weirdos and that's what tends to work.

[kingbeauregard]

"Our heroes have to fight a team of villains called the Brotherhood of Evil!"

"Oh yeah? Well OUR heroes have to fight a team too, called the, um ... Brotherhood of Evil .. Mutants!"

[joshdoek]

Have you every thought of covering the controversy surrounding Batman's creation. The decades of snubbing Bill Finger as cocreater, Bob Kane falsifying documents, and the copying of panels from other sources.

[wk]

The timing was so close the two teams had to have been created independently, but it is most probable that the Doom Patrol influenced some of the darker subtexts (prejudice, isolation, etc) which mostly only showed up later in X-Men. It's just another example of DC and Marvel playing "pong" with ideas back and forth, and the stories were better for it.

[tinstrings]

Doom Patrol is X-Men before they were cool. I Bought Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol Omnibus and it's excellent.

[AscendantStoic]

Grant Morrison is one interesting, creative, weird and crazy bastard, he never disappoints, his new Green Lantern is pretty bananas 😂

[PeterStellenberg]

To me the Doom Patrol is closer to the Fantastic Four than the X-Men regarding team logistic and character wise. The Teen Titans are more or less DC's X-Men.

[Thierrothierro]

There's an excellent episode of Batman: the Brave and the Bold featuring the original Doom Patrol. It adapts the final issue of Arnold Drake's run (the team's final battle with General Zahl).

[BigBennKlingon]

I think it's a sort of "zeitgeist" phenomenon. For whatever reasons these concepts were just sorta in the cultural air, so to speak, that year. Sometimes if you look at the movies, literature etc.. of that moment you can begin to get a sense of how things like this happen.

[ppotter]

Cough... Dada was an art movement, not an individual... carry on ;)

[lsgreger]

It is always interesting to see the similarities between Marvel and DC superheroes. I read all the writers and artist from both studios were all friends most of the time and would bounce ideas off of each other so it would make sense that some characters or teams were similar. It always amazed me that there were actually lawsuits all through the age of comics on characters. Every comic borrowed aspects of others.

[JohnAquariusPodcast]

DUDE I JUST WATCHED THE DOOM PATROL SOO DAMN AWESOME. normally i watch a series just 1 time not this i watched the second time I cant beleive how well it was done

[ItsOverProductions]

I remember Batman The Brave and the Bold episode "The Last Patrol" where Doom Patrol dies at the end of the episode. It blew my fucking mind that a show like that had the balls to do so. I literally felt the air race out of my stomach when the island blew up and Batman looked down in shame as he wasn't able to save his friends. Great episode.

[themadmattster]

i think they're both great. I got into the Grant Morrison Doom Patrol, and have read a bit of the original but think X Men is great as well. Funny Grant Morrison also later did X Men. It was the stories though, not the characters per se, that defined X Men (with Chris Claremont at the helm)

[postoffice]

8:20; *"Danny the Street, * a sentient street that could be anywhere".








Now I've heard it all....Grant Morrison was a freaking *genius.*

[jamesstamboni]

Dada was an (at best) loosely affiliated movement rejecting structure and reflecting the failure of organized society in the wake of WWI. In some centers it was explicitly political, while in others it was more based in ideas and expanding the concept of what could be art/ destroying the idea of art all together. It generally preceded Surrealism which was literally a club started by Andre Breton to reveal the supposed higher truths of dream consciousness- Dali was repeatedly kicked out for being too successful/ being explicitly Catholic/ possibly backing Franco.

[Tamperkele]

A guy in a wheelchair is the leader? I'm going to steal that idea!

[azrael]

the bigger question is,
Did comic tropes info-Tron ripoff comicbookgirl19 robot ?

[melvinramone]

Thank you for this video. The FF/Doom Patrol/X-Men connections are something I always enjoy looking at. I agree with you that it was more likely parallel thinking than theft. If accusations are fact we got my three favorite super hero teams out of it so I guess it was a good thing.

[petemarquez]

Great episode Chris, love the intro. where you got stepped on. I learned a lot of good information that I never new. The fan art at the end were all either really good or at least really pertinent. Good job brother...

[MaximilianDenisPatrickPonsonby]

Some other parallels between the FF and the DP I've noticed before is that both Reed and Chief are pipe-smoking geniuses but whereas Fantastic is super-flexible Chief is wheelchair bound, and both Sue and Rita had powers that technically made them the most powerful on their respective teams but spent most of their time in the background. Sue could create force fields but usually spent her time invisible, whilst Rita could become a super-strong giant but usually went super-small instead. Both of them had powers that made them seem like non-combatants and more like spies, symbolic of the sexism of the time imo.