Ryzen 7000 has MAJOR ISSUES! Ryzen 7000 XMP / EXPO

Ryzen 7000 has been out for a while, and it hasn't had the best start. Granted, it's not on the level of Ryzen 1000, but Ryzen 7000 sales are low, and what's worse, the DDR5 Ryzen 7000 memory controller has some issues. Ryzen 7000 memory compatibility isn't the greatest, and the release of AMD EXPO RAM technology and new Ryzen 7000 EXPO RAM kits isn't making thing simpler. So let's go over what the Ryzen 7000 memory situation, the whole Ryzen 7000 XMP or EXPO debate, and more!

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[LevelsForGuitar]

Yep. I'm dealing with this right now. 7950x, x670e crosshair, 2x32 corsair vengeance ddr5 5600. I am stuck running the ram at 4800. Setting the expo for 5600 crashes. This is the only YT video addressing the issue. It's all over Reddit and other forums however. Thanks.

[TheOnlyYorkShot]

Running a 7700x with a 6000hz kit, my PC started getting repeated blue screens. Turned off XMP and it booted fine. Running a diagnostic check just in case.

[avrona]

The recently released BIOS version F3H for the B650E Master and other Gigabyte boards seems to have fixed the issue I was having. I'm now runnig 4 sticks at 6000MHz without any issues or instability. So if you're having the same issue and have a Gigabyte board, update your BIOS to this new version if you haven't already!

[alenspahalic]

Surprised more people aren't talking about this? Had a 7700X with this issue, bought new RAM & got a good boot, restarted PC no boot. So I thought it could be MOBO or CPU, bought a 7800x3d & new MOBO, same issues. Running the latest BIOS & still has issues.. the cost of cutting edge > . <

[npe_]

Expo ram doesnt solve the problem.

Expo is just a pre saved profile.
If you set your xmp ram to the same clock, frequenzy and timings as the expo one it should work.

But if this is unstable, then the expo certified ram will be unstable too.

[projectvr]

Here to inform newer viewers that this is still an issue. I recently got the Ryzen 7800X3D and paired it with 4x16gb 6400Mhz G. Skill on a Gigabyte B650 G. When I had 2 sticks running on 6400Mhz on EXPO it was running fine. But when I added another pair, Windows would not boot normally. I even reinstalled windows and did a clean slate thinking it was an issue with my memory card or windows installation (11). DRAM light was constantly on and boot up took nearly 5 minutes booting off of an SN850x NvMe. Hope this would be fixed soon because these parts are not cheap. So decided to just put 2 sticks at EXPO since its stable enough to boot and run.

[kaytomascom]

Built my machine last friday. Having huge issues with Kingston Fury at 6000MHz with EXPO, but while disabling it it runs smoothly. Bios updated, windows updated and amd drivers updated.

[JDale]

Still an issue as of Nov. 14, 23. New build, 7800x3d, G.Skill 30cl 6000. Start up just fine under default BIOS settings. Enabled EXPO, exit/save BIOS menu and wouldn’t boot. Unplugged power cord and removed the MBO battery for 20 minutes to reset CMOS, boots just fine at 4800mhz.

[jasons]

Over a month later, problems persist. I think you're right, it's ryzen memory controller related. In my Ryzen 7700x MSI B650 I can run my g.skill DDR5-6000 CL30 sticks at EXPO one at a time but if I go dual channel they lock up my BIOS and I need to reset CMOS. I can set it at 5400 tops before this happens. Maybe a BIOS update will help with stability.

[outdoorbolu]

In November, I assembled a system with b650 pro wifi motherboard, Ryzen 7600, 2x8 Patriot RAM and RX7800 GPU. When I opened expo with one click, the system did not start. Then I bought 2 more b650 tomahawk motherboards and 3 different RAM and the problem did not change at all. Technology editors never mentioned this problem. They always said that RAM kits and bios were problematic.
Then I bought a new 7600 processor and it runs cooler and expo and sleep modes started working without any manual settings. My old processor is in service now. When they tested it, they said there was no problem. I explained the situation and they said they would check again.

[ZeraVerse]

I had the exact same issue. I found the solution. For me it was the compatibility of my DRAM with my Motherboard. Below is my config:

- AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (AM5, 4.50 GHz, 16 -Core)
- Asus Tuf Gaming x670e-plus wifi
- Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 32 Go (2x16 Go) 6000 MHz C38
- Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 7900 XTX Vapor-X (24 GB)
- Cooler Master V850 Platinum (850 W)

All I did was to change my Corsair with Gskill trident 6000mhz and since then, everything works perfectly well. I hope this will be useful for you guys.

[Purechaos]

Had the same problem, really unstable and sometimes no boot. In my case what fixed it was disabling Memory Context Restore, this will force RAM training on every boot after shutdown or restart. It will take some seconds to boot but it will be really stable, you could try that.

[Arvin]

A month later, still no bios updates. I got my 7700x 2 months ago and I am having the same problem but for me, If I enable EXPO/XMP/DOCP the pc runs fine from anywhere between 5 minutes to a full 2 hours until the PC randomly crashes and reboots into a black screen without POST (Red CPU light on MOBO). I’ve tried swapping out 3 different RAM kits (T-Force 5200, G.Skill Trident Z Neo 6000 & 5600) and 2 different motherboards (B650 Tomahawk & Strix B650E-F) but the problem still persists. The only way to make the PC run stable is to disable EXPO after resetting CMOS with the default RAM speeds. I’m getting real tired of this, sad thing is my old 5600x had RAM issues too.

This indeed seems to be an issue with the CPUs memory bus controller.

[Montgomerygolfgator]

I seem to be having similar issues on my 7950x3D, under Linux. I had a VM crash saying I was out of memory, then the whole system froze. Rebooted into Memtest86, and it started showing errors in the upper 128GB area. Swapped sticks around, and the memory errors stayed in the same place. Replaced motherboard, still doing it! If it were the ram, the issue would migrate around different memory pages, and if it were the motherboard, then replacing it would have solved the problem. Even turning off EXPO doesn't seem to fix it, so is it the chip?

[guanyu]

My 7700x+B650 Tomahawk+G.Skill Flare EXPO X5 2x16GB DDR5 6000
I had some wake-up problems with EXPO activated with the original/out-of-the-box BIOS.
After some updates incl. BIOS, everything works fine now.

[odstzero]

Just built my pc last night. Asus x670e tuf wifi, ryzen 7 770x and corsair 32gb ddr5 5600mhz. Can confirm everything was running fine until I updated bios and enabled xmp. Started getting boot to safe mode with the black screen where it said memory unstable. Had to revert to 4800 speeds. Asus on the site says my ram is compatible at that speed but for some reason doesn't work.

[nessim.liamani]

Hey, I need some advice on a RAM configuration issue with my new build!

Problem:
I'm building a new PC with an MSI B650M WiFi Gaming motherboard and I have 4 sticks of DDR5 RAM but there's a mix:
- 2 sticks of Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6200 MHz (XMP).
- 2 sticks of Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000 MHz (XMP/EXPO).

I know mixing RAM with different speeds and profiles (XMP and EXPO) can be problematic, so I’m trying to find the best way to get them to work together stably.

My Proposed Solution:
1. I plan to install only the 6000 MHz EXPO kit first and enable the EXPO profile to let the motherboard automatically set the timings, frequency, and voltage.
2. I’ll note down the settings (timings, frequency, and voltage) applied by the EXPO profile.
3. Then, I’ll install the 6200 MHz XMP kit and disable the XMP/EXPO profiles in the BIOS.
4. I’ll manually input the settings I noted earlier to match the EXPO kit’s configuration.
5. Finally, I’ll run some stability tests to make sure everything works fine with all 4 sticks installed.

What’s Your Take
Do you think this method will work to achieve a stable setup, or is there a better approach you would recommend for mixed XMP and EXPO RAM on an AM5 motherboard? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

[b_smokin]

4 Months later still having this issue with 6000mhz. All the latest firmware, drivers, bios and still no post with expo turned on.

[npe_]

I had to try 3 different bios versions, endet up downgrading to an older version to get my 6000cl30 ram booting.
Before red dram led and black screen.
Tried jedec and manual speeds and timings, but i got those blue screens like you.

Now it runs stable, but takes about 40 seconds to boot.

Ryzen 7700x, gigabyte b650 gaming ax, gskill trident z

You got an gigabyte mainboard too?
Try a downrade from a newer bios beta version to an older full version!

That solved it for me.
Just the boot times are bad

[iq]

I went with G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO Series 6000 CL36 + ROG B650E-F + 7600x, Hope they work well together.