What a MESS - Ryzen 7000 Laptops Aren't What You Think

The AMD Ryzen 7000 series is coming to gaming laptops and thin and light laptops in 2023...but not in the way you might think. Let's talk about the actual release dates, how these laptop CPUs can be anything from Zen 2 to Zen 4 and performance. 2023 probably won't be a good year for AMD laptop availability either.

TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Ryzen 7000 Laptops Intro
0:30 - Sponsor Spot
1:01 - Availability Issues
1:46 - Zen 2 in a 2023 Laptop!?
3:30 - Ryzen 7000 Lineup Explained (Good Luck!)
4:08 - Ryzen 7940HS, 7840HS, 7640HS
5:35 - Intel Destroyers - 7945HX, 7845HX, 7745HX, 7645HX
7:48 - Amazing No Longer - Ryzen 7000U
8:54 - RX 7600 & 7700 Mobile GPUs
10:03 - A Golden Opportunity for Intel

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[TabalugaDragon]

You should also mention Nvidia's scam. They pretty much fully brought back M GPUs to laptops without bringing back the laptop name. Now, if I want a **70 class GPU laptop I need to buy a 4080m one, and it's ONLY installed in premium models, whereas you could get a 3070m(less cores but still based on desktop 3070) in budget laptops like Asus TUF, Nitro 5, HP Omen and Legion 5\5 pro. I hate Nvidia, and honestly so should everybody.

[skshandilyamari]

Good that I picked up a zenbook with a 6800U. It is definitely a great buy. I am extremely happy with this .

[ChrisM]

I am really curious about the performance of these 12 CU of the 7040 series iGPU. I hope we might see some great improvements there.

[watercannonscollaboration]

I’m fine with the naming scheme, for example you don’t know the R7 5700U is zen2 despite being branded as 5000 series. However, I know computers well, and for someone who doesn’t this looks like a death trap

[burtonyan]

I'm excited about the 7040 chip. Hoping to get a laptop with that this year if it's available with the right spec.

[outcast]

3:50 I actually like the naming scheme, you can get a fairly accurate idea of what you are getting if you know what to look for in a single number, and the longer and more detailed the processor model number is the easier you can Google it and find out more specific specs... MOST laptop buyers are business people who just email all day or grade schoolers, they have no idea and don't really care what they buy, but now the option is there to know exactly what you are getting in a single model number string for those who actually truly care. Great job explaining it BTW.👍

[tianmul]

If you are wondering how 7600M XT is the same thing as 7700S, you can check 6600M and 6700S.

[TKOgamer]

I'm okay with the naming if they don't start changing it again right away.
We already had an issue where people were buying laptops thinking 2000, and 3000 laptops were using the same chips as the desktop 2000 and 3000.
I do hope they put more effort into clarifying which generation is being used tho.
If Zen 3 laptops are priced well due to the increased supply from moving focus away from Milan based Epyc chips along with the maturing 7nm and 6nm, I hope it would lead to a better market.



Would love to have access to Zen 4 laptops, but I'm sure they'll cost an arm and a leg. At the same price, definitely Zen 4, but if it means saving several hundred dollars, Zen 3 seems like the better option. Shame though since Zen 4 seems like a beast in Laptops.

[MyLeoOne]

I like the fact they add the Zen generation in the name. I also like they change numbers based on the year so you can tell how old the actual laptop is. I assume they improve the older processes and generations. Before I would have had to search the laptop's model number to know when it was launched. This way it's easier to weed out old designs when helping people shop

[samal]

Kind of sad that by the time these become widely available (late summer 2023), we'll start to talk about the Ryzen 8000 series and Strix point APU.

[SnoozinFox]

I like AMD's new naming system. Each number has a meaning, unlike Nvidia and Intel where it's all arbitrary. As long as I can show a customer a graph to explain the names, then I'm happy.

[HAHA.GoodMeme]

the zephyrus duo 16 looks like a perfect mobile workstation laptop. 16 cores and 2 screens. Holy crap there it is, my next laptop. Nice suggestion.

[TurboManTom]

You're acting like this is way more complicated than it actually is

[EnochGitongaKimathi]

I’m really hoping for a RYZEN 7 7840U in the next GPD Win4 handheld gaming pc for Christmas 2023.

[JBrinx]

The naming for AMD CPUs I think is actually a little better than before. It's very much not obvious that odd numbered CPUs 5700u vs 5800u were using last gen architecture. The third number being 4 for Zen 4 makes more sense, but perhaps it should have been the second number? I think availability is much more concerning. I definitely want a Phoenix laptop with 1060-1070 like integrated performance, but it seems like it'll be very hard to obtain. I also am somewhat worried about RDNA 3. It's clear they didn't expect the architecture to fall so short in efficiency and performance

[johnnyxp]

The 7xxx series has a naming code you can understand what is what. Intel is mixing up the numbers to confuse buyers and nvidia scams with watt and not M badge.
AMD Ryzen laptops have only 1 negative imho. Availability! We need way more companies don't make enough.

[ricardorocha]

AMD Phoenix and Dragon Range will be the best laptops CPUs this year. But is the fact that will be so hard to find one is a great shame.

[chrisvanhorn]

Your sponsor spot for the Fractal Ridge mentions the case includes a PCIE Gen 4.0 riser cable, but that is no longer the case. They changed the published specifications to say 3.0.

[cornpowder]

Your reporting is my favorite among the Canucks. Thanks for clearing up some of the mud and helping us understand the laptop market a bit more.

[FreediiFree]

To AMD's credit, while the naming scheme is new and will cause confusion at the start, the information is written out so that if you know what you're looking for you can immediately see what kind of AMD processor is inside. This is assuming the old and rebranded chips have been optimized to work well on modern hardware and AMD isn't increasing the prices simply because it has a 7 at the front of the name (i know, wishful thinking there). There are folks who want a bare bones PC for simple tasks. I figure old processors are better in a purchased laptop than stuck in a warehouse never to see the light of day.