This Is AI Cheating

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At a time when the cheating epidemic seems like it can’t get any worse, there is a growing concern that we are on the cusp of something that could set us back in a major way: AI cheats.

All while Valve and other devs are supposedly behind the scenes working on AI detection models, hackers are doing the very same thing to better disguise themselves.

These AI cheats are harder to direct, whether it's being looked at by a machine or the human eye, forcing devs to fight fire with fire - initiating an AI arms race.

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remember when screen peaking was the cheats we had to worry about goldeneye

vinacar
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this is like college students using ai to do work while professors using ai to see if students are using ai or not

yurackjung
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ai cheats have already been a thing for years, there is aimbots that learn how you aim whilst playing and try to imitate it so it doesnt look like just any aimbot algorithm

krispyq
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The internet really has crippled one of the best anti-cheats in the history of mankind; the fist.

umunchuuu
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I miss being able to play CS. Half of the games are cheaters and the other half are people who are clueless

drumxr
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"it may reach a point when we will not know if the player we are playing against is cheating or not" another thing to add to that is companies using AI powered bots to pad a low playerbase or to work with the SBMM system.

ritakida
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I literally don't play shooters anymore because of the cheaters

Netbase
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Didn't think I'd see a hot mulligan fit on TheScore

Kerm
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Microsoft is planning to restrict access to Windows kernel, so no more kernel level anti cheats

balmashev
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i can't even bother playing competitive multiplayer fps games right now. incessant microtransactions and horrible cheating problems have been plaguing this genre for years and its gotten to the point where i just cannot stand it anymore

bagus
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The main problem with ai is the fact that it is so much more expensive to train a sophisticated model than it is to use a model that’s already been trained. So we can just go to the models and design an anti cheat based on the way the models were trained. Simple. Maybe not easy, but simple.

confusingfool
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has literally anyone been invited to overwatch? the devs said they brought it back but not a single person has shown proof they've been part of it

JasonMendoza-hdce
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"Impossible for devs to keep up with" is complete and utter bullshit, but if you ignore a problem for 20 years, it's not going to get easier to get rid of. Valve and CSGO/CS2 Dev has ignored a growing problem for far too long.

MikaelAdolfsson
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The frustration about cheating finally got me as well.
I used to play level10 Faceit, played in ESL and German League (99dmg) for years. I am inactive now but like to play every now and then. In Matchmaking and Wingman the Game has put me in such a low rank, way beneath my skill range so almost every enemy is reporting me for cheating (I can't blame them). My trust factor got so incredibly low that now I ONLY get queued against and with Cheaters. But its not like these people even try to hide it no. It is only like getting through all the walls possible with revolver and scout. In the last 15 Games I had at least 1-2 Cheaters in 13 Games.
So that's where I am now Valve. Thank you that because of your inability to work good enough on your game and anticheat, people like me who love the game and spent thousands of thousands of hours are getting punished.

Silvan
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Basically Homeless did a great video on this topic about a year ago too. Def encourage people to check that out tol

koolaiddude
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It is absolutely bonkers that we are talking about AI cheats when cheaters are permanently avoiding cheat detection by using a 5 dollar arduino. Valve anti cheating effort is negligent at best, non-existing at worst - but it is definitely not a race

mariusnorheim
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Korea has people sign up for games using a government account tied to their SSN. If you get caught cheating, you will be banned from all games using that login system. I believe there are also some cases where getting caught cheating could see you fined or even jailed if you tried to fraudulently win a competition. I would love to see this implemented elsewhere, but it seems near impossible for some countries to implement such a system. Sad, because it seems very effective.

joevader
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I've almost exclusively played Competitive FPS since Quake 1. As much as it pains me to consider, we may wanna spend our time doing something more productive at this point rather than playing games that are 30%+ cheaters.

jimmyfrost
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"TURBO LOSERS!", ...i LOVE that!! 🤣🤣

richardweber
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What is still a mystery to me - with a statistical analysis of the Stats (K/D Rate, ADR ...) gives you a good hint on Cheats on about 90% of players. Add them automatically to Overwatch - or if the stats are ridiculous just ban them for 7 Days.... and if they end up in the stat analysis again - ban them for life. What is so difficult about this?

raphaeleymann