Gran Turismo 2: CHEATING AI

Gran Turismo 2's races are filled with cheats - cars that exceed the events' power restrictions and cars that exceed their own power restrictions!

In this video, we're going to take a look at all of them (not just the Ford GT40 at Historical Rome...), so if you've ever been out-paced by the AI - particularly when you're driving the same car as they are - you'll finally know why this is. You didn't just forget to buy an extra power upgrade; the AI is cheating to win.

Music credits:

Jazzy Ryuuji - Air Flow

Folamour - Kickflippin' That Stuff

Munir - Feels Around You

[BK]

atleast all the other races are beatable, unlike this mf-40 in rome

[michaelhall]

I knew the AI cheats. Nobody believed me. They all thought I was crazy.

[rats]

My theory is the AI isnt as good at cornering as a real player and during testing they realised it was too easy. So they ramped the horsepower up to compensate

[seanhart]

Ever since I was a kid I knew something was up with the AI in GT2. I specifically remember buying a Honda CRX Si-R for one of the beginner events. It was at Tahiti Road and I was up against some slow little kei cars. Should've been easy, right? Nope. No matter how hard I pushed in the corners the AI would fly past me on the straightaways. They'd even out accelerate me uphill. In their puny little kei cars! Thank you for confirming my suspicions. Great work as always!

[YoryiTheFox]

Opponents= *uses GTLM or LM cars*

Xantia driver= it's fine, ill race anyways

[saghwteam]

That race with the Vector is unexpectedly heart-pounding. I sat on the edge of my seat the whole race. I expected you to beat it with dirty methods like ramming it off the track (after all we're talking 300+ hp difference here), but no, it's legit racing and pit tactics.

And it's good to see that vector get beaten, as I never managed to win that race myself. Kudos to you, good sir..

[apexgt]

I really respect the amount of research and work that go into these videos. You drive every car in every event just to show how unfair the ai is. Thanks again!

[Harperlarp]

To be fair from the CPU's perspective the humans are the cheaters. We can move off the racing line. Make tactical decisions. Hell, even restart if we lose! We're so OP!

[RedzaMalaysianCrossover]

I can hear BK4 is typing




Edit : He's There! Pinned comment!

[C.I...]

What impresses me about this is the fact that these AI cars have horsepower values at all. This must mean they drive themselves in a more player-like way than other similar games. For instance, the Toca Touring Car games have 2 set lines around the track, and with defined maximum and minimum speeds at various points.

[strandedcat]

14:32 when you lied on your resume but you got the job anyway

[MrJoseph]

Welcome to the Salty Spittoon. How tough are ya?
How tough am I? I won every race on Gran Turismo 2 NTSC ver 1.0
Yeah, so?
Without any tuning
Uh, right this way, sorry to keep you waiting.

[kartaltoth]

Only a Yellow Evo 5 can beat the GT40 around Rome

[SupaDorifuto]

23:29 it isnt cheating, its just takumi driving it

[andrewmancini]

The Ford Taurus cheated by being allowed to even compete in an event called "Luxury Sedan."

[YegoYTP]

GT40 on Rome is the biggest cheater ever!

[nolongerusing]

20:16 GT2 was released in '99. the evo 7 was released in 2001. the ai cheated by basically breaking the laws of time, allowing them to get a car that didn't exist then

edit: 21:03 1 bhp away from perfection

[acerusea]

Ford GT40: You cannot defeat me.

Me: I know, but he can.

*Yellow Evo 5*

[mikem]

this video is the comfiest. if you could smell videos this one would smell like a coffee in a mug

[peterdaviesracing]

_Two devs at Polyphony_ :


"Hey man, I think we got an issue."
-"What is it?"
"Our AI is rather crap, they can't compete with the player all that well."
-"Tried rubber banding?"
"Ech, doesn't really work."
-"Just give the AI higher powered variants of some cars to balance it out and make it more challenging."
"I don't know, that will make quite a lot of cars exceed the BHR limit at some events, which is kinda cheating."
-"Just do it, trust me. People will complain it's too easy."


5:18 - It's funny these two cars race each other. Lotus/Chapman designed the car in a bid for the... Ford GT40 project!
14:14 - I think the Wiki says that if you switch languages from any in the PAL version to English, you can race both Opel and Vauxhall. Apparently even the completion percentage gets higher than it should.
14:34 - Probably the only race it would ever win(and still didn't against you), it was a crappy attempt at a GT2 car. Drove 3 times, retired 3 times, then got converted into it's successor. That means both the Vectors shown are cheaters too :P
10:11 - Doesn't it say VI(6) instead of VII(7) though?


23:10 - 24:16 - So we effectively have Initial D and Over Rev! cheaters here, Itsuki, Takumi and Ryoko Shino. The power advantage of the Eight-Six isn't wrong though, that's just Takumi as the AI ;)

30:45 - 31:23 - Great, now it's a bit of Sailor Moon(a never made Coupe version of the 2000 GT shows up there) abd Wangan Midnight.
35:53 - 36:10 - éX-Driver car now aswell.
41:15 - Doesn't that say '91 though?


Those Tommykairas seem to be the "popular" choice(alongside Clios, GT40s and Elises for example) by the devs as cheat car.