Baptism Q&A w/ FLAME, Bryan Wolfmueller, & Lex Lutheran

FLAME sits down with Pastor Bryan Wolfmueller & Lex Lutheran to discuss the claim that baptism saves. They address difficult questions like: How can baptism save if we are justified by faith? How can infants be saved through baptism if they can't repent and believe? If baptism saves wouldn't that compete with Jesus?

Both gentlemen have YouTube channels. Search “Bryan Wolfmueller” or “Wittenberg Project.”

[chasetonhahn]

As a Reformed Baptist myself, I’ve been thinking through these doctrines without any presuppositions from my own traditions. Thank you guys for helping me see from your perspective and think more critically about my own beliefs.

[emptynestadventure]

As a lifelong, multi-generational Lutheran, I love these videos! They help me appreciate my church and understand the viewpoint of those outside of it. Thank you!

[Virikel]

Realizing that Baptism and the Supper are God's work, which we receive by faith, but are actually JESUS HIMSELF, in the room with us and doing miracles, wow... There was no going back at that point. Assurance of salvation like I never believed was possible in this life, as well as a tangible closeness to God so many churches promised, but you could never know for sure if it was gonna happen. And this is better than what they would give, too!

[Carina-Rose]

Thanks for this video! My husband and I are meeting with the local LCMS pastor today to talk about baptism. We’re coming from a reformed Baptist perspective and so far this is the point of doctrine that is hardest to wrap my mind around. I get close to understanding then I get confused. Honestly, I just think it’ll take some time to “un-indoctrinate” myself of my Baptist ways of thinking, if that makes sense.

[kaymaiwald]

What a great conversation. Thank you, gentlemen. Also, I want to sing in those acoustics...

[TheTheoneshoe]

I love how these difficult things are being discussed and grappled with. I’ve been studying and rethinking my eschatology and now believe strongly in partial-preterism rather than a dispensationalism, as previously. Now I’m rethinking baptism.

[andrewilkens]

I have learned so much insight about faith and baptism through the Lutheran tradition that I am thankful for though I be not Lutheran. Grateful for Flame and Rev. Bryan and Lex for this conversation

[zacharyjcole]

This is outstanding. Thank y’all for doing this!

[kurtweber]

Flame, i love what you are doing! Keep up the epic awesome work!

[uneasyrider]

Just found your channel thru this interview, as I’m a long time follower or Pastor Wolfmueller, and now of you. God Bless!

[stevenschultz]

Thank you for showing the joy that is provided for all who know the Word and let us all teach such to those missing out because of reductionist “Christianity” — those clinging to mental achievements over what Jesus Christ has achieved and taught!

[markcarterii]

Great convo bro because the lack of understand and education of some believers dont understanding this type of convo

[kylesilva]

I personally am reformed Presbyterian by category. This conversation has been very interesting and a blessing to me. Thanks for the conversation and the song!

[michalstrawn]

Thank you for sharing this conversation! I always struggle to explain baptism clearly to my non- Lutheran friends. But thankfully, while I don't understand it all, I hold fast to God's promise in 1 Peter 3:21 and the baptism I received at just 6 days old. Anyway, thanks again for the convo which has helped me to better understand and equipped me to better explain baptism!

[letthecreativityout]

This was absolutely awesome to watch and brings such clarity. Thank you for this help—now I have something to point my Evangelical friends to!!! Now to “win and argument “ but to bring clarity and peace to their faith!!! Amen.

[kristinwatson]

Always love when my pastor (Jason from Being Lutheran) gets a shout out as one of the homies! 😂❤

[kboonzaa]

I too am an ex-Reformed Baptist. I am beginning to see the value of baptism in my limited understanding of Lutheranism. However one aspect that I have yet to understand is what is the theology of those who are baptized, but leave the faith never to return? As a Reformed Baptist, it is simple - they were deceiving themselves and were never truly saved. If "baptism saves" then how to understand those who are baptized but leave and never return?

[dzyre]

Absolutely Dope!!!! frfr!!!! 👏🏾 Very Informative!!! I'm glad you doing this!!!! Much needed!!!!

[PhillyboulJ]

A brother who was very influential in my salvation. Preaching the gospel to me and showing me the love of Christ. First gave me a flame album in 2004. Being from Philly and in the middle of my State property/ Roc-a-fella era of Rap. I thought it was the corniest rap I ever heard and threw the CD 💿 in the 🗑 trash !! A couple of years later in 2006 when I finally got saved. I went back and started listening to flame again and he became my favorite Christian rapper. And I was listening to a lot of Shai Linne and lamp mode back then too. But flame was the first one who helped me understand limited atonement in his first album. Listening to that it finally clicked and I excepted the doctrine of particular redemption for the first time. Now come on flame 🔥 come on brother !! You mean to tell me that 18 years in the reformed church and you never read or listen to R.C. Sproul’s “What Is Reformed Theology” or back then the book was still called “Grace Unknown”. The very beginning of the book. In the section on sola Fide/ Faith Alone. One of the first things RC Sproul talks about is Luthers reformation breakthrough. An alien righteousness, Extra Nos, and simul iustus et peccator, simultaneously being saint and sinner at the same time. I knew about that stuff my first year being saved as a reformed Calvinist. Because I liked that doctrine so much I went on to read more stuff from Luther “the bondage of the will”, “The Augsburg apology”, “The smackald articles”, The whole book of Concorde. Philipp Melanchthon’s loci communis. Gerhard o forde "The Theology Of the Cross" And my favorite Lutheran book by CFW Walther “the proper distinction between law and Gospel”. Martin Chemnitz “examination of the council of Trent” and “the two natures of Christ”. I just find it hard to believe that you never knew about this stuff in the Reformd circles. It was one of the first things I learned being catholic, evangelical, and reformed !! I read more of Luther back then when I first got saved before I even opened John Calvin’s “Institutes of the Christian religion”. It sounds like to me you were in a very very weird reformed Baptist Church from the things you are saying here on this video. And I just feel bad for you that you were in such a weird church and never got none of this foundational stuff, if you really are telling the truth and never even heard of “extra NOS” your whole time being reformed. I really don’t believe you.. I think you are exaggerating if I’m wrong please let me know? As for me and I thought the same for all Reformd people. The first thing I learned was Justification by Faith Alone, a historical objective redemption, “Alien 👽 Righteousness”, that is found “Extra Nos” outside of our selves, and the proper distinction between the law and the gospel. I learned all that stuff in the first book I ever read from RC Sproul called “what is reformed theology”. And the different views of the Real Presence between Luther and Calvin on in the sacraments. My first year of being saved as a Reformed Calvinist. That’s why I find it hard to believe you never heard of none of the stuff it’s foundational the fundamental to Reformd theology. We are “Catholic” because of Athanasius, Anselm, and Augustine, “evangelical” because of Luther, Philipp Melanchthon, and Chemnitz, reformed because of Calvin, John Knox, Theodore Baeza, and of course RC Sproul lol 😂 we are just dwarfs standing on the shoulders of giants !! I thought everybody who was reform held to the orthodox historical views of the church.

[electric]

Great video! Also, where can one get the Evangelical Catholic sweatshirt?