3 Reasons I Have a Problem with Fundamentalist Christians

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Literally. Fundamentalism sent me to a mental hospital and not just once. I wish fundamentalists could find peace with God without having to make others sick.

kahlodiego
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I studied in a fundamental college and what you say is. 100% true

funclips
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OMG thank you!

I'm a new Christian, I didn't intend to become one, I was doing academic critical Bible Study and fell in love with Jesus. So I go looking for Christian content on YouTube and BAM I am greeted with a bunch of angry, unempathic/borderline sociopathic, women-and-gay-hating extremists who definitely think I'm going to hell because I cannot hold to their exact doctrines. I had never been forced to watch so many videos or read so many articles about how women are inferior to men or gay people are going to hell or even Christians who just have questions are going to hell. It was literally all that came up in my searches at first. It was a massive stumbling block, and was a little traumatic because I was seeking siblinghood with fellow Christians with an open heart and I found deep evil instead. I tried to join some Reddit groups but that didn't go well either. It's all left me even more scared of doing something like joining a church.

As a vaguely educated and slightly intelligent person with some grasp of history these people make no sense. If they think the Bible is the most central thing what does that mean for the many, many Christians for hundreds of years when the Bible either DID NOT EXIST YET or was completely inaccessible because 1) it was illegal in their language 2) they couldn't afford one or 3) they couldn't read -as most people couldn't until fairly recently??? Were even those so passionate they martyred themselves not Christian to these people????


THEN they claim that this immensely complex thousand of year old collection of books originally written in three different languages across diverse settings should be able to be read plainly and literally by ANYONE. The rationale for this is that they believe that God intended to communicate and thus ANYONE can read and receive the message in its entirety. I'm sorry but a very uneducated or barely literate person probably cannot read the whole Bible and get anything of the original meaning of the authors - especially parts of the OT are very hard for us to really understand. People dedicate their whole careers to studying one book of the Bible and continuously notice new things and argue on the intended meaning. Jewish people - who read the OT in the original Hebrew - have spirited debates on what the stories really mean. And that seems to be more allowed among Jewish people.

I really feel their treatment of the Bible is bizarre and lazy and demeans it. If it contains the secrets of everything worth knowing why wouldn't it require intense study to truly understand all the mysteries? Even Jesus says he speaks in parables to give wisdom and understanding only to those who are equipped to receive it.

Fundamentalist Christians are clearly in error about many things, and their lack of ability to understand nuance or to act in good faith with out-groups is dangerous. They will abuse others and call it love. They are everything Jesus spoke out about.

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mistressofstones
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We need to be careful when we disagree from any side that we don't allow ourselves to hate those whom we disagree with. Hate has no legitimate place in the lives of Christ's followers, regardless of whether we interpret Scripture as a fundamentalist or not. Fury and anger are not fruit of the Spirit.

willrobinson
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I am 37 and have been in limbo since my early 20s. I’m recently feeling like it’s the end of this prodigal tale and I’m ready to return home, but I don’t know how. Understanding why I struggle to converse with people and feel unwelcome in my church is helping, and this video was part of that. Thank you.

CymricGamez
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Hymn #20: The steadfast love of the Lord
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Refrain
The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases.
Your mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning,
new every morning:
great is your faithfulness, O Lord,
great is your faithfulness!

ruthgoldbergives
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Good Stuff Pastor. In my denomination we are overrun with Fundamentalists. Someone from my denomination once said in 1956 that they were the lunatic fringe. Only problem was, the lunatic fringe wasn't quit so fringy. I always approach them on the basis that I might actually help them to become more open minded. I usually leave them not being so successful. But I have seen changes in some over time. Not often, but I do see it. Keep praying and continue to struggle with them. Let no one rob you of your joy.

KarlsKronicles
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Ignorance isnt fundamentalism. Fudamentalism is when people want certain aspects of socity shouldnt changed. At least thats the defenition

AthaulfPoley
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Hello! I am having presentation in political ideologies and I’m supposed to find flaw in Fundamentalism. I am having trouble finding hole in this odeology. Can someone help?

tinigelazania
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Help the poor, feed the hungry, treat others with kindness, and to better yourselves. Those are what Christians should inspire to do. Instead, fundamentalists focus more on the fire and brimstone part as well as hating another person's faith due to them either not being in the right denomination, following a different religion of the same God, and also hating polytheistic religions and seeing their gods as devils, which are some of the reasons Christianity has begun to be hated more now

seanemery
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It's quite simple really. A Fundamentalist is somebody who takes the Bible literally.

jagdeepkaul
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Pastor Tanner, great video! I am a devout practicing Catholic and have been debating (what has turned into just arguing now) with my very fundamentalist aunt. Everything you said here is 100% spot on! The way you put it is excellent! I have a great friend who is a Lutheran pastor and none of our talks or discussions are ever like that of one with a fundamentalist! Thanks for the video, and God bless you brother!

jstrong
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This is good. He's 100% correct. Talking with fundamentalists will make you crazy.

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I've noticed this issue when dealing with the issue of womens ministry. Not just in terms of pastoral ministry either. I'm what the person in this video calls a "Classical Fundie". But modern Fundies like to pretend there is no tension at all in the text when it comes to the role of women in the excercise if their spiritual gifts. Despite the fact that their were female leaders, teachers, and even prophets in the Bible (it seems only the apostles were exclusively male), and despite the fact that it is prophesied that daughters will have an outpouring of the holy spirit as well in the future. I'm not saying men and women are the same, but I am saying it's fair to reevaluate old traditions. Its really depressing cause i was a complementarian for the longest time and now Im seeing egalitarians treat the Bible with a lot more care and nuance these days. And I'm being put off by the boneheaded refusal to even consider the other side from so many in my previous camp.

I just want to find a Biblical way to respect my sisters calling and gifts, am i no longer a Christian because of that? Even if Im honestly wrong on this one issue? Honestly i feel God will forgive me if I am, especially since I am doing so out of a desire not to supress the Holy Spirit. But i would ask Fundies: "if your wrong, are you not only guilty of being wrong, but also of supressing the Holy Spirit?"

I think its a dangerous game we play when we tell a woman burning with the spirit to shut up too much. And yes I know what the text says but don't pretend that the examples i mentioned don't exist or are irrelevant either.

vociferous
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Thank you for breaking this down - I've been going out of my mind when talking to people with a fundamental viewpoint. My approach of love and compassion did not find favour at all... How can we talk to fundamentalists without it escalating into an argument?

samanthapattison
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Im a fundamentalist.
The good old-fashioned one.
Thats i klicked this video. I was curious.

But good video on the topic on that other stuff.

OleT
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5:02 Post-trib is obviously the correct, or at least safest doctrine.

William Tapley believes there is a _partial_ pre-trib, which is obviously not in the fault against Mt 28:20. But then, that cannot be what 1 Thessalonians 4:16 speaks of.

hglundahl
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3:46 Great, the text from I think Acts 4 does not negate Romans 13, or in context, since the priests of the temple prior to deicide were ecclesiastic prelates, Hebrews 13:7, it actually just tells us where the limits are.

Romans 13 should for instance not be a recommendation to take the mark of the beast bc it is required by government, if that is the manner in which it is imposed.

Tensions are beautiful ... when it comes to soteriology (read Eph 2:8--10 for one) or instructions on how to live.

It does not follow that tensions can actually be all that present about Biblical history. Nuance _can._ Speaking of nuance, how do you interpret Shinar in Genesis 11? If the LXX translates the word Shinar as Babylon on occasion (seemingly not in Genesis 11), does this reflect when Babylonian Empire was South of Assyrian, or when Babylonian Empire had entirely already swallowed up Assyria? Or in other words, was Babel a place only in Sumer or a place anywhere in the physical geographical region between two rivers, as per the precision "in the land of Shinar"?

I hold to the latter, btw ...

hglundahl
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Pastor Tanner, that was awesome. Great explanation of the problems with Christian fundamentalism.

The problem with Christian fundamentalism now days, though, is that it's everywhere and fails to identify itself.222

Magnulus
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What I think is funny he is being fundamental in his stance against fundamentalist. It's like saying your nondenominational, that in itself is then your denomination. You are trying to not adhere yourself to any denomination but if you just look closer to their Church covenant it is easy to find just who that Church's denomination do associates with. In a way we are all fundamentalist a strict adherence to a basic principle, subject or discipline. By saying my way is right and your way is wrong is fundamentalism.

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