Why Constitution Class Decommissioned Exposed!?

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What's up Lore Masters,

This is going to be discussing the Constitution Class , Enterprise Class , and several other variants of the said Constitution Ship's.. The truth is.. It was to powerful and had to be hidden.. for all of our safeties.

It definitely isn't related to Gene Roddenberry 's idiotic requirement to not have anything from TOS here. Cause God Knows he always made the best ideas.

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Meanwhile, in a Klingon Bird of Prey slingshoting around a sun...

digitalis
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Beyond that, the Constitution class has: 1.) The most powerful weapons in Starfleet as it can snipe a fly millions of miles away w/o harming anything else beyond a nanometer AND turn the surface of an entire planet molten in a matter of minutes.
2.) The fastest ship in Starfleet being able to go from Earth to the Galactic Core or the Galactic Edge (25, 000LY each) in DAYS.
3.) Captains that can seduce any sentient female lifeform in nearly any Universe.

occultatumquaestio
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That clip in which Sisko talks about saving civilians at all cost to yourself is interesting when you think about the time that he made a civilian planet uninhabitable just to defeat Eddington and the Maquis.

FortoFight
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It's so powerful they decided retire all of them. And while they were doing that they were under close guard meaning you only needed 5 guys to steal one.

catsRPG
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The Constitution Class was so OP even "God" decided he needed a starship

AdmiralJT
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My understanding of it was that the Constitution class was the last non modular design for Starfleet ships. It was decommissioned because it was obsolete compared to the modular designs of the Miranda and Excelsior.

UESCBattleDroid
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I think the Constitution class out live its design capabilities. Through out its service life. Star Fleet upgraded them as far as they could go until there design efficiency became a problem.

Technology can only make things so small until you need more room for newer designs. More space for computer memory banks, new systems or increased system capabilities that require more crew to operate which leads onto crew quarters and places were crew can exercise or relaxed (think holo decks). Medical staff, engineering and so on and so forth.

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I would ignore the time travel stuff, and point to a more practical in universe explanation. There were only a handful of Constitution class ships in service at any given time. Most probably were destroyed or decommissioned. Whereas the miranda class was built in huge numbers and had a less bulky more modular design.

philipparadias
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"Now you're thinking with time machines."

sulphurous
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Constitution class the most powerful ships in starfleet
Excelsior class : Am I a joke to you?

justinkong
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The constitution class has a duranium hull, Starfleet upgraded to tritanium, making refits rare and costly

stuartnicol
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"...creating Frankenstein Monstrosities of Satan..."

*Rages in Daniel from Spacedock*

digitalis
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I found this amusingly plausible, and I was not *entirely* certain whether you were being facetious until the end there. I suspect that the in-universe reason was likely that, between the Miranda and Excelsior classes, the Constitution was simply left without a role. The former had a larger internal volume and the design was more readily modified to serve various roles, while the latter was a far larger and more potent heavy cruiser (people talk about Excelsior's shields handling that photon torpedo hit better, but few seem to talk about how it took the Praxis blastwave like a champ - possibly with its shields down, or not completely raised, considering how long it tended to take shields to come online during that era). Add in that the Constitution had been the highest profile (war)ship in Starfleet for decades, this made it the perfect sacrificial goat when the Federation committed to "dismantling the battlefleet" in the wake of the Khitomer Accords. Add the scrapping of the derivative Hermes and Saladin class scouts and destroyers, as well as the handful of Federation class dreadnoughts (questionably canon, yes, but I'm including them here since documentation for these classes was seen on-screen in a couple of movies), and they have made a visible good faith effort to get rid of the big bad warships, while leaving the less aggressive looking newer designs to take their place.

Meanwhile, the Miranda class? "Oh, those are *totally* ships of peace. See, we took off the roll-bar arsenal and everything." Of course, the nice modular systems meant that re-arming the Mirandas wouldn't take very long. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few warehouses filled with arsenal roll-bars for all the ships in service, just in case. It could explain why all the Mirandas we saw in the Dominion War were Reliant-style builds, rather than the grab-bag of configurations we saw in TNG. It might also explain why we don't see them firing the roll-bar phasers - the torpedo tubes were useful, and could be easily upgraded by stocking them with modern torpedoes and updating software, meanwhile, the phasers in the hull would have been upgraded over time, but the ones on the roll-bar may have been neglected during the "golden age" and thus were outdated and under-powered. (Stray musing: It's a pity that they didn't/couldn't upgrade those to a pair of Defiant-style phaser cannons. That would have given the old Mirandas some serious punch. They weren't using power for warp propulsion during the battles, so it should only be a matter of getting the power up to the emitters, rather than not having it available at all. However, unfortunately this would have probably expanded the refit beyond what the Federation would have the time or resources for. Gotta get the torpedo pods on the ships and kick them out of dry-dock quickly so the next batch can be armed.)

dajonaneisnoah
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I loved the constitution class i always wanted what a 24th century constitution class looked like anyway.

springtrapstarwar
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This makes no sense because the crew had little difficulty with time travel using a Klingon B'rel-class BOP in Star Trek IV.

AvroBellow
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Plottwist: Star Trek has been about a (Secret) Time War all along!
Maybe even connected to a certain other show. (Whoniverse Time War did spread into other multiverses)

BadwolfGamer
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in all fairness a lot go TOS is overpowered compared to tng and post tng trek.
- federation moving continents for terraforming
- galactic barriers
- the milky way galaxy (yes all of it) not having any wars
- the galactic barrier
- literal magic (yes thats a thing) (animated series)

omarelmasri
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It’s the neck. Somebody realized how vulnerable it was.

PelhamExpress
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I guess this makes the destruction of the Enterprise D more palatable. Think of how powerful the Bird of Prey is considering it can travel through time. Thanks Lore!

AndrewJR
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Also towards the end of Star Trek First Contact the crew of the Enterprise E said they were able to replicate the way the Borg created Temporal Particles and return to the 24th century.

philgarza