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Steve Strogatz vs. Alain Connes, pt. 2: Music ratios are multiplicative noncommutative phase Yuan Qi
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"Aside from their role as inverse functions, logarithms also describe many natural phenomena. For example, our perception of pitch is approximately logarithmic. When a musical pitch goes up by successive octaves, from one "do" to the next, that increase corresponds to successive doublings of the frequency of the associated sound waves. Yet although the waves oscillate twice as fast for every octave increase, we hear the doublings - which are multiplicative changes in frequency - as equal upward steps in pitch, meaning equal additive steps. It's freaky. Our minds fool us into believing that 1 is as far from 2 as 2 is from 4, and as 4 is from 8, and so on. We somehow sense frequency logarithmically." p. 134,
Math Professor Steve Strogatz, "infinite powers."
And now Fields Medal math professor Alain Connes stating the OPPOSITE:
"The only thing that matters when you have these sequences are the ratios, the ear is only sensitive to the ratio, not to the additivity...multiplication by 2 of the frequency and transposition, normally the simplest way is multiplication by 3...2 to the power of 19 [524288] is almost 3 to the power of 12 [531441]...... Musical shape has geometric dimension zero...There is a beautiful answer to that, which is the quantum sphere... .There is a quantum sphere with a geometric dimension of zero...I have made a keyboard [from the quantum sphere]....This would be a musical instrument that would never get out of tune....It's purely spectral....The spectrum of the Dirac Operator...space is not simply a manifold but multiplied by a noncommutative finite space......It is precisely the irrationality of log(3)/ log(2) which is responsible for the noncommutative [complementary opposites as yin/yang] nature of the quotient corresponding to the three places {2, 3,∞}. The formula is in sub-space..... the phase space of a microscopic system is actually a noncommutative space and that is what is behind the scenes all the time....A fascinating aspect of music...is that it allows one to develop further one's perception of the passing of time. ...time emerges from noncommutativity....What about the relation with music? One finds quickly that music is best based on the scale (spectrum) which consists of all positive integer powers qn for the real number q=2 to the 12th∼3 to the 19th. [the 19th root of 3 = 1.05953 and 12th root of 2=1.05946] Due to the exponential growth of this spectrum, it cannot correspond to a familiar shape but to an object of dimension less than any strictly positive number....This means it is a zero dimensional object! But it has a positive volume!... .Algebra and Music...music is linked to time exactly as algebra is....So for me, there is an incredible collusion between music, perceived in this way, and algebra....I believe that this variability is more fundamental than the passing of time. And that it's behind the scene, meaning that the passing of time is a corollary of this..."
Fields Medal math professor Alain Connes (compilation of quotes)
Connes practices Chopin at home - with Chopin using complex harmonics that are very subtle. Here is what Professor Steve Strogatz emailed me in response to his first music pitch gaff:
"I didn't say more about music because I know so little about it!
Hope you enjoy the rest of the book."
So in fact logarithms originate from music theory and not the other way around! Math Professor Luigi Borzacchini:
"How did the Greeks discover incommensurability?" This is one of the most puzzling 'scripts' of the history of mathematics. The 'movie' usually shows a Pythagorean (Hippasus or Archytas for example) drawing a square with its diagonals (or a pentagon with its golden sections on sides and diagonals) (von Fritz 1944), or drawing dots in a square (Knorr 1975), or even making some computations (successive subtractions, ¢nqufa…resij) (Fowler 1987), and exclaiming: “But this is impossible! If I am not wrong, this means that geometrical, continuous magnitudes cannot be reduced to numbers, discrete entities! Pythagoras was wrong!”. Then a meeting of the sect takes place and all Pythagoreans swear to keep the secret of the 'scandal'. A Grundlagenkrisis for the ancient Pythagoreanism follows, for whose solution a brand new axiomatization will be necessary, which will lead to Eudoxus and Euclid.
This movie deserves great attention because its scenes are the background of our modern perception of the mathematical continuum, and, at the same time, these scenes are forced by this perception. To question the movie means also to discuss the most basic and undisputed premises of our current philosophical view of mathematics.
It is the aim of this paper to try to shed some light on the connection between the historical interpretation of the discovery of incommensurability and our idea of continuum: this is what I mean by a ‘cognitive’ approach."
Incommensurability, Music and Continuum: a cognitive approach. Arch. For History of Exact Sciences, 61 (2007)
Math Professor Steve Strogatz, "infinite powers."
And now Fields Medal math professor Alain Connes stating the OPPOSITE:
"The only thing that matters when you have these sequences are the ratios, the ear is only sensitive to the ratio, not to the additivity...multiplication by 2 of the frequency and transposition, normally the simplest way is multiplication by 3...2 to the power of 19 [524288] is almost 3 to the power of 12 [531441]...... Musical shape has geometric dimension zero...There is a beautiful answer to that, which is the quantum sphere... .There is a quantum sphere with a geometric dimension of zero...I have made a keyboard [from the quantum sphere]....This would be a musical instrument that would never get out of tune....It's purely spectral....The spectrum of the Dirac Operator...space is not simply a manifold but multiplied by a noncommutative finite space......It is precisely the irrationality of log(3)/ log(2) which is responsible for the noncommutative [complementary opposites as yin/yang] nature of the quotient corresponding to the three places {2, 3,∞}. The formula is in sub-space..... the phase space of a microscopic system is actually a noncommutative space and that is what is behind the scenes all the time....A fascinating aspect of music...is that it allows one to develop further one's perception of the passing of time. ...time emerges from noncommutativity....What about the relation with music? One finds quickly that music is best based on the scale (spectrum) which consists of all positive integer powers qn for the real number q=2 to the 12th∼3 to the 19th. [the 19th root of 3 = 1.05953 and 12th root of 2=1.05946] Due to the exponential growth of this spectrum, it cannot correspond to a familiar shape but to an object of dimension less than any strictly positive number....This means it is a zero dimensional object! But it has a positive volume!... .Algebra and Music...music is linked to time exactly as algebra is....So for me, there is an incredible collusion between music, perceived in this way, and algebra....I believe that this variability is more fundamental than the passing of time. And that it's behind the scene, meaning that the passing of time is a corollary of this..."
Fields Medal math professor Alain Connes (compilation of quotes)
Connes practices Chopin at home - with Chopin using complex harmonics that are very subtle. Here is what Professor Steve Strogatz emailed me in response to his first music pitch gaff:
"I didn't say more about music because I know so little about it!
Hope you enjoy the rest of the book."
So in fact logarithms originate from music theory and not the other way around! Math Professor Luigi Borzacchini:
"How did the Greeks discover incommensurability?" This is one of the most puzzling 'scripts' of the history of mathematics. The 'movie' usually shows a Pythagorean (Hippasus or Archytas for example) drawing a square with its diagonals (or a pentagon with its golden sections on sides and diagonals) (von Fritz 1944), or drawing dots in a square (Knorr 1975), or even making some computations (successive subtractions, ¢nqufa…resij) (Fowler 1987), and exclaiming: “But this is impossible! If I am not wrong, this means that geometrical, continuous magnitudes cannot be reduced to numbers, discrete entities! Pythagoras was wrong!”. Then a meeting of the sect takes place and all Pythagoreans swear to keep the secret of the 'scandal'. A Grundlagenkrisis for the ancient Pythagoreanism follows, for whose solution a brand new axiomatization will be necessary, which will lead to Eudoxus and Euclid.
This movie deserves great attention because its scenes are the background of our modern perception of the mathematical continuum, and, at the same time, these scenes are forced by this perception. To question the movie means also to discuss the most basic and undisputed premises of our current philosophical view of mathematics.
It is the aim of this paper to try to shed some light on the connection between the historical interpretation of the discovery of incommensurability and our idea of continuum: this is what I mean by a ‘cognitive’ approach."
Incommensurability, Music and Continuum: a cognitive approach. Arch. For History of Exact Sciences, 61 (2007)
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