AI BOMBSHELLS: Tesla Q3 AI Deep Dive

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The Wife's Test: We've had FSD since 2019 it's only been worth using for about a year now IMO. I love it. I can enjoy the day, listen to music and the car drives me where I want to go. It drives great in heavy traffic, gets me to my destination much faster than I could. Jeannine

roger_is_red
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Trolley problem is minimising accidents against people who r not inside a car. Car will rather prefer to crash on another car than crash against a person outside of car

erick
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John, I have not heard what you mentioned Tesla would do for those of us that purchased FSD on our hardware 3 vehicle, I’m really happy to hear that Tesla will provide an upgrade for free. Thanks for that information.

moepoulin
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I think the Trolley Problem in the case of autonomous vehicles is a pointless question. The AI will do its best to not get in an accident. It wont choose between who it should kill it will look for the best way to not get in an accident. If that means take option two at that point in time it will take option two. If that ends up hurting more people but was the correct decision to minimize the chance of an accident it was correct.

The problem with the trolley problem is that is assumes the decision maker has knowledge of the outcome of its decision and has the time to make the decision. In the case of a car accident you are not going to have time and knowledge enough of the situation. The person or AI making the decision will do what is best with the knowledge it has. If somehow it has two choices that both lead to an accident then most intelligences, AI or human will probably try to avoid both. Or just not make a decision.

trottingwolf
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I live in California (my home state) so I'm excited that I may buy a model y or model 3 at my Tesla car dealership next year. Tesla will take a hybrid approach for their robotaxi. Which is you can go to your Tesla car dealership to buy one for personal car ownership or use an app to use a robotaxi. Tesla will be unsupervised level 4 by next year. I'll go to Etsy to buy a 2025 Tesla wall calendar. Tesla's robotaxi will be you can travel the entire state like California (unsupervised) however if you go outside the state go to a next door state like Nevada you have to supervise as long as you pay attention by putting your eyes on the road with 100% hands free driving.

PSonefan
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WOW ! You have obviously been thinking about this for a while. Nicely done.

joebuchanan
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Did I hear you correctly that Tesla will upgrade my Model 3's CPU Version 3 to Version 4 since I already purchased FSD?

NickMackenzieMD
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Excellent video; I feel much better after spending $8k additional for FSD on my 2021 HW3 model Y nearly four years ago, knowing I may have an easy upgrade path HW4. I like Elon's desire to take care of the early adopters!

ghauptli
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I had never considered the 'trolley' problem as it pertains to SFD until you mentioned it here. This looks like a gnarly issue - at least in the short term - and I agree that in the US especially, the drive to litigate before meditate requires some solid perspective on how to deal with such events. I like your suggestion to think of FSD as a quasi human, but there will be massive legal pushback on this - at least for a while - and at the very least by the Ambulance chasers.
Great video. Thank you Sir.

jimparrUtube
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As a former autopilot designer, I am curious about the architecture of the FSD computer and how it will act in the event of a HW failure. I have heard it is dual channel, but no words on expected failure rates and what happens to the vehicle when a failure occurs. Typically, a dual channel system can not be fail-active, but only fail-passive. This means it will stop driving after a single critical failure. Any info from Tesla engineers would be nice.

mikeoberg
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Elon likes to say "stuff" and "stuff might happen, but sometimes after putting $50k down on a Roadster 2 you get the comment, about cherries on top and we're in the final stages of design - only 8 years late. My 24 Y was initially supposed to have 4680 cells, but that didn't happen.

craighermle
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Only the CT has two sreering motors upfront. While not necessary it may become the regulatory requirement for autonomous driving

peteregan
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My little brain is hurting, but a great video, so much to to take on board, but exciting stuff, love it.

alanharvey
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Good episode. Thank you. I think Optimus will be huge. I break it into (home use/factory use/farm use). I think it will do it all, but at different stages in its development. I think Boston Dynamics could compete now that they're partners with an AI. I don't know if they can make that jump to production like I know Tesla can.

woulfgw
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First cut at the Trolley problem:

Provide a software switch between

. Protect life of car occupants at all cost to others when injury to occupants is imminent.

Or

. Minimize loss of life to all individuals, both internal and external

microsrfr
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For A lot of people who can only shop in the $25k car range due to their income (as opposed to just being an economical choice for someone’s 2nd or 3rd car), their general experience with ride share is that an impromptu moderately length trip (say 1 hour) is a luxury, while the same trip is relatively cheap using a car you already own. (Again I’m talking about an unplanned trip).

The group of people I’m referring to likely pay for their netflix using the monthly option instead of yearly option even though it’s technically cheaper. A lot of their decisions (wrong or right) are made with short term thinking. Also not talking about someone living in nyc and places similar to it who must rely on ride share and/or public transport. If cybertaxi would have to be significantly cheaper than rideshare to seem appealing to many in that group.

wewk
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I think Tesla is going fork FSD to HW3 and HW4. HW3 will always be 'supervised' but you will be able to buy it or subscribe. This should be at a lower cost . HW4 will be supervised, until it isn't. The cost for unsupervised will be substantially higher.

dilbertnewton
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Next year, you will want to go to watch a launch in Texas again, just to use unsupervised FSD!

jackcoats
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Great guide and explanation of Tesla's path forward. Should have listened to you when you predicted the stock would drop after the we robot event.

willyag
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12.5.4 is a nice improvement; my wife's shrieks have almost disappeared. I'm expecting her to move to the front seat soon.

ghauptli