Are CPU's Getting Faster? (2009 AMD Phenom II vs 2018 Intel i7 8750H - Phenom 2 Benchmark)

In this video we explore the question of whether modern CPU's are faster than older ones. Specifically, how does an i7 from 2018 compare to a Phenom 2 from 2009.

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[sanyi]

Behold the new unit system of measuring how fast a CPU is, the Phenom.

[ayhamahmad]

These are the results from AMD Ryzen 3970X, 32 Core, 64 Threads
1)
Executed 427.8 billion instructions/second
Score: 14.21 Phenom's II's worth's

2)
Executed 424.4 billion instructions/second
Score: 13.89 Phenom's II's worth's

3)
Executed 422.7 billion instructions/second
Score: 14.04 Phenom's II's worth's

4)
Executed 1220 billion instructions/second
Score: 14.77 Phenom's II's worth's

5)
Executed 421.1 billion instructions/second
Score: 13.99 Phenom's II's worth's

6)
Executed 1627 billion instructions/second
Score: 39.32 Phenom's II's worth's

[billybob]

since you gave us source code, here's my threadripper 1950X for your curiosity.
Single Thread:
1. 15.35 (x2.036)
2. 15.71 (x2.052)
3. 15.76 (x2.091)
4. 45.83 (x2.214)
5. 15.45 (x2.05)
6. 31.19 (x3.008)
7. 3.923 (x3.923)
Multithread ( 16 cores, 32 threads, 2 numa nodes)
1. 216.7 (x7.198)
2. 223.5 (x7.314)
3. 218.5 (x7.256)
4. 681.4 (x8.25)
5. 218.1 (x7.247)
6. 476.5 (x11.52)
7. 61.21 (x61.21)

[IndellableHatesHandles]

10 years ago, you wouldn't've even thought of comparing a Pentium 3 to an i7 870. It's insane that the Phenom keeps up so well.

[skoopsro]

"im looking forward to 2020"

you jinxed us

[gert-janvanderkamp]

"I'm looking forward to 2020"

That aged well 😂

[agsystems]

The biggest developments in CPU performance have come from advances in out of order execution and being able to parallelise instructions that use different silicon. Your benchmark catches none of that. Try mixing instructions to run more than one benchmark at the same time on the same thread, and see if you get the same results.
Transistors have not gotten faster, and optimising each task on silicon is not that hard. It was well understood by 2009. It is not surprising that we have seen little improvement in benchmarks that hit their bottleneck at the silicon.

[larsfinlay]

hey man, I can't tell you how big of a smile it put on my face when you said "on this channel we're assembly programmers!"

a few weeks ago I couldn't read assembly code, but thanks to years of logic classes back in uni I figured out how each individual register in a computer counts and remembers in a day. I'm beginning to understand how to manipulate the registers with operands you taught me. one love.

[bpark]

WOW! Real assembly code! The 2nd Moore's law: the inefficiency of code more then makes up for the increased speed.

[timanderson]

AMD Ryzen 5 3500U laptop cpu
Single core:
1: 13.64 billion instructions/second
Score: 1.809 Phenom's II's worth's
2: Executed 14.05 billion instructions/second
Score: 1.835 Phenom's II's worth's
3: Executed 13.59 billion instructions/second
Score: 1.802 Phenom's II's worth's
4: Executed 41.11 billion instructions/second
Score: 1.986 Phenom's II's worth's
5: Executed 13.63 billion instructions/second
Score: 1.808 Phenom's II's worth's
6: Executed 28.87 billion instructions/second
Score: 2.784 Phenom's II's worth's
7: Executed 3.595 billion instructions/second
Score: 3.595 Phenom's II's worth's
Multi core:
1: Executed 52.03 billion instructions/second
Score: 1.729 Phenom's II's worth's
2: Executed 51.43 billion instructions/second
Score: 1.683 Phenom's II's worth's
3: Executed 51.49 billion instructions/second
Score: 1.71 Phenom's II's worth's
4: Executed 162.4 billion instructions/second
Score: 1.967 Phenom's II's worth's
5: Executed 51.08 billion instructions/second
Score: 1.697 Phenom's II's worth's
6: Executed 113.3 billion instructions/second
Score: 2.739 Phenom's II's worth's
7: Executed 14.89 billion instructions/second
Score: 14.89 Phenom's II's worth's

[Riael]

The question isn't whether or not they're getting faster, it's whether code used nowadays is as optimized in the past.
Game development companies for example ask their interns to be able to write an A* algorithm FROM SCRATCH in 5 minutes (happened to me at Ubisoft :) ) and yet the games they come out with run badly on hardware that's a year old...

[sieyk]

You can tell that programmers/hardware enthusiasts are a passionate bunch just by looking at how many comments there are compared to the number of views.

[kyleolsen]

Threadripper 3990x
1) 433 billion/s (14.38 Phenoms)
2) 429.5 billion/s (14.05 Phenoms)
3) 427.8 billion/s (14.21 Phenoms)
4) 1193 billion/s (14.45 Phenoms)
5) 429.5 billion/s (14.27 Phenoms)
6) 1627 billion/s (39.32 Phenoms)
7) 116.1 billion/s (22.4 Phenoms)

[vitasartemiev]

I had my Phenom II 1090t overclocked to 4GHz for years. It could sustain that frequency forever, but then I figured out I was wasting electricity by doing that so I switched it to only boost when needed. It basically carried me all the way through to Zen 2 architecture.

[nasigoreng]

A great demonstration.
I have subscribed so I can recall the github and I owned a Phenom 11 when it came out.
Got I wish I had never moved on all my stuff I could be having so much fun with things like this now,

Cheers
Got some ordering to do

[landi]

(Single Core) Results of my Ryzen 5 2600 - 4Ghz OC:
1) 15.7 billion = 2.082 Phenom's
2) 15.69 billion = 2.05 Phenom's
3) 15.7 billion = 2.082 Phenom's
4) 45.75 billion = 2.21 Phenom's
5) 15.5 billion = 2.056 Phenom's
6) 31.89 billion = 3.076 Phenom's
7) 3.987 billion = 3.076 Phenom's
Will do the benchmark again later without overclocking

[PierreSoubourou]

The new CPU is over twice as expensive, this is important

[MagnetLoop]

The only reason I decided to upgrade my Phenom 1 is the memory controller. Modern high frequency DDR4 modules can produce astonishing throughput, which is what really makes modern CPUs faster in real world applications compared to older CPUs with DDR2/DDR3 memory.

[waynemv]

I'm watching this video on my main desktop PC which still has a Phenom II.

[Badeand]

Ryzen 3700x is apparently about twice as fast as the Phenom in the areas where the Intel lost on single core :)
So for the shifting, I guess that could just be AMD's strong suit