This is why you don't buy a cheap china cymbal (Meinl vs WHD)

I was actually making a comparison video and then this happened.

The WHD is not upside down, it can be played both ways.

Meinl B18CH Byzance 18" Traditional China VS
WHD 18" Trash China Cymbal O - series

The WHD is brand new.
The Meinl is a little over a year old.

[OlesMusic]

Some claim the WHD cymbal is upside down. Even if that is the case, the WHD is still very thin compared to the Meinl, and I would still not buy a cheap one cause it will break much faster. Remember to subscribe you cheeky bastards!

[jamesdevine]

Learned something new today: if you set up a china cymbal the wrong way round and hammer on it straight downwards with a stiff wrist, it can break! Thank you!

[mariothedevil]

Wow! Who would've thought that having your china cymbal the wrong way and hitting it with the force of 1000 suns would break it!

[charleshaspey]

You were hitting the WHD by coming downwards on the upturned edge. You’ll break any thin China cymbal that way.

[layz_gaming_]

Why don't you flip the byzance and play it?

[dougmasters]

For my next trick I will hit a cheap splash cymbal with a hammer, and a nice one with a foam pool toy, to demonstrate just why you should avoid cheap splash cymbals.

[alessandrocanal]

If you hit any cymbal like that, you'll break it

[joeoneill]

Both china's sounded great. Now turn all of your cymbals upside down and see how long they last.

[nelldogcf]

And in this video, OP has a hard time understanding how physics work and instead chooses to blame the cymbal company.

[toivo.u]

I mean, youre smashing the cheaper one upside down, its no surprise its gonna break.

[jbbnbsmith]

This is a troll, right? Next you should do a video about cheap snare heads and put it on the batter side of the snare to show how easily it breaks.

[Eric_Aerolis]

So one HUGE red flag i see here is that, while you can use a china no matter what way its facing, your striking technique has to change. So when the flange is face down like that you end up needing to strike more of like the body of the china instead of the lip. Using more of the shoulder of your stick like when you crash a ride cymbal.
I hope that helps

[nazgyah]

wow WHD is great sounds better than meinl

[Avedis_]

Total aggressive hits on the Lion China- 16
Total light hits on the meinl- 6

[SmangItDrums]

"Some people claim the WHD cymbal is upside down."

That's because it WAS upside-down, especially considering the kind of music that you play. You were essentially striking a cymbal at a vulnerable point, causing the metal to get over-stressed and break. This is common with ANY cymbal that you hit at this angle.

"Even if that is the case, the WHD is still very thin compared to the Meinl, and I would still not buy a cheap one cause it will break much faster.

Not entirely true. How you mount it (which was wrong) and how you use it matters greatly, and in the case of this china, it probably would've lasted had you mounted it correctly. I'm not even a fan of those "lion-type" chinas, and this one sounded really good in the mics before it broke.

[piero]

I kinda like the sound of the “cheap” china

[brawksolid]

If you buy a China cymbal that is thin, you can't strike it on the edge in that orientation. It would last a good long time if you flipped it over and hit it on the transition area, ~3 inches in from the edge. Thin cymbals give a particular sound that heavy cymbals cannot but they sacrifice toughness. Think about single ply and double ply drum heads. Would you put a set of thin, sensitive, single ply heads on a drum set, smash the crap out of them playing metal music, and then blame the heads for not being durable? They're not for that.

[loganrosepiler]

Inconsistent comparison. China’s were 2 different ways, and don’t think I didn’t notice you whamming extra hard on the Wuhan 👀

[elcharlyz]

I have had a 20-inch china wuhan for 7 years and it is in perfect condition and sounds incredible, before this one I had a 18-inch china oriental trash from zildjian that was damaged in less than a year, in this case it does not seem objective to me the comparison.

[XiyuYang]

Others have mentioned you mounted the WHD upside down, I'll add that you’re hitting the cymbals at a bad angle, you’ll break any cymbal really fast by hitting like that.

Think of your stick as a paint brush and the cymbals as a canvas, brush it, don’t chop it.