Big Boeing Accident & Recovery Updates

There are updates surrounding Boeing's recovery from the ongoing 737-9 incident and the further repercussions felt Boeing-wide. There are slated to be new delays to the commencement of 737 MAX deliveries to China as customers have concerns over the quality of the product. Meanwhile, some question the Federal Aviation Administration.

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[-FILTHYBEAST-]

As a former employee I can tell you 3 major problems with Big B. 1) The personal stress to each employee to meet the never ending schedule, 2) The top heavy managment mostly being "YES" men & women, 3) The company not being run by engineers and instead the out of touch board members.

[gregculverwell]

Quality escaped Boeing 20 years ago and has refused to return until they pay for it.

[colinwhyte]

It is not 'quality escapes'. It is quality failures, with potentially fatal consequences. Boeing dodged a bullet with the Alaska Airlines flight. If this had happened 10 minutes later, this could easily be a hull loss & multiple American deaths.

[nsmooth]

Boeing started going downhill the day Phil Condit became CEO and it started accelerating when Harry Stonecipher became CEO and McDonnell Douglas bought Boeing with Boeing's own money. It has been a long, tragic descent over the years. Even more amazing is the rise of Airbus, a consortium of international companies and their record of success against Boeing.

[johnpatrick]

Boeing is an embarrassment. It stopped being an aircraft manufacturer first into financial engineering when it merged with Douglas and moved its HQ to Chicago away from engineering.

[LawrenceSeetoh]

Every time I hear "Quality Escape" I feel that Boeing is just covering up their own failures

[MikeCTRVLR]

Besides cost cutting, the actual responsibility can be attributed to at least three inspectors. The shop inspector, the final assembly inspector and finally the shakedown inspector that okayed installing the insulation. When an area is closed it’s typically inspected before being covered.

Boeing needs to implement lean technology so that the line can be stopped in case any production problems, that might apply to a multiple aircraft, are discovered. In any event, the pursuit of quality is more important than meeting daily production targets.

[Incidental]

I don't want excuses. If Airbus, Embraer, and Bombardier can achieve it, so can Boeing. The reality is that those manufacturers prioritize safety and quality, whereas Boeing does not, plain and simple. We aren't setting an unrealistic standard for Boeing that we don't apply to others. Quite the opposite, if this were the A320neo or the E2 series, those planes would never see the light of day from the FAA ever again.

[courseydl]

There are several issues with this incident, Spirit's poor quality to start with, Boeing for not catching the issues, and Alaska airlines for continuing to fly a plane that had a pressurization fault on 3 previous flights.

[TheSaberjet]

Boeing made its first mistake when they moved their main offices away from the production plant. Their second mistake was in subcontracting a lot of the actual construction of the components for the aircraft. In any business, if you are not looking, the contractors will cut their own corers.

[robertmatetich]

You can't expect a company that rewards and promotes consistency to change easily. The 787 production line was an attempt to change the culture back in 2008. It failed when they brought management over from the other lines and the schedule came under stress. Stress, whether schedule or cost causes regression to past behaviors. I witnessed multiple quality violations that went unreported.

[thefrener]

They reshuffled the deck but all the cards were the same.

[peter-eq]

Why have I watched your channel? Clear, concise, informative, no irritating background music, no BS!

[georgelabottum]

When I book my flights now, I confirm, before I book, that I’m not on any 737 max. Too many issues.

[melbournechugging]

Why nobody demanding management to step down

[stuartmccall]

Luck should never be factored into a QA system. Bad as this latest incident is, can you imagine the what the situation would have been if the passengers adjacent to the fallen-off door had be sucked-out of the aircraft either as individuals or whilst attached to their seat row. Perhaps the Boeing Board / QA Dept should be made to "volunteer" their families members to fly in their aircraft next to emergency doors without the use of lap belts other than at take-off and landing, for say a 12 month period. I think that would focus their minds.

[mabybee]

“Quality escapes” is like saying someone partakes in “substance abuse” instead of calling them a crackhead

[ronparrish]

I don't remember problems like this when they stretched the 707 to put the extra plug door in or on the 727 even the 757 came with options for extra doors the Delta 757.s came with a option 2 doors in front of the the wing but only a few airlines choose it

[debugstore]

It seems to me that Alaska Airlines recently chose to purchase more Boeing aircraft, knowing that Boeing has manufacturing quality issues. Why would they do that?

[Parula]

IMO Boeing's QA issues began when financial types rather than aerospace engineers started running the company, back when Boeing & MD merged. It's all been downhill since, especially when the legacy programs were finished being implemented (the 787) and the new management's methods came to the fore (canning rather than updating the 757, the MAX series). But I think Alaska bears some responsibility here, too. Who in their right mind sees a pressurization warning go off THREE TIMES and just keeps on keepin' on with minimal involvement?