WOW, I understand Shias now...How Islam Split into Sunni and Shia (Sunni Slovak Muslim Revert)

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WOW, I understand Shias now...How Islam Split into Sunni and Shia (Sunni Slovak Muslim Revert)

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لَا إِلٰهَ إِلَّا ٱللَّٰه مُحَمَّدٌ رَسُولُ ٱللَّٰه و عَلِيٌّ وليُّ ٱللَّٰه 🏴

Armijae
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AS SWEDISH REVERT THANKS TO ALLAH I FOUND SHIA ISLAM. THE TRUE PATH OF ISLAM.

kellysam
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Umer denied to give paper to prophet saww that means he refused the command of prophet and allah said in quran whoever has made mulu prophet unhappy has made me unhappy..

jahangirhussain
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Oh people! I have left among you some thing which if you get (hold of) it, you will not go astray: The book of Allah (Quran) & my progeny, household. Who are Household, ask yourself that question?

iishia
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The day of judgment will reveal the truth

maryamtabatabayi
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Shia muslim here. I have to clarify a few things. First of all, Shia dont believe that the 12 Imams hold supernatural powers. You might have heard some shia "sheikhs" say some stupid things that are basically kufr, but generally the absolute majority of scholars and shia believers don't hold such views. We follow the Quran first and foremost, and we take our intrepretation of Islam by the Imams who we believe were passed down the correct teachings of Islam step by step up to Ali who were taught by Prophet Mohammed

And to be noted, this is what Prophet Mohammed said to Ali, "You are to me like Aaron was to Moses except that there shall be no prophets after me." (al-Bukhari,  his Sahih, part 5, page 24)

That statement alone pretty much shows that Prophet Mohammed and Allah held Ali in the highest of highest regards above all other companions. And yes, I also say Allah because the prophet would never give such an example if Allah didnt agree, and everyone here should know who Aaron were in Islam.

So basically yes, the split were political indeed, but when we know that Ali were held in such a high regard above everyone else so of course we follow ahly bayt and their narration of what Islam is, what prophet Mohammed said and did etc. We dont follow "al jamahah" the companions (though we hold them in high regard) because they were not the Aaron to Prophet Mohammed, Ali were, and Ali passed down prophet Mohammed and Islam teachings to his sons and the prophets house hold. Thats basically it.

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It is sad what happened to Ali, although he knew he was chosen by prophet to be the leader, to avoid conflict 3 times he stepped down and even supported the 3 other khalifas.

fahimamohseni
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What I could understand in simple words is Sunnies recognise Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) as a friend and Shia recognise Prophet as a Master.

yaridosti
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Unfortunately due to specific Shia-exclusive practices, westerners and many other non-muslims think that otherwise non-islamic elements like Nikah mut'ah (pleasure marriage) and Taqiyya ( lying/deceit on whim against non-muslims) are Sunni practices too, which they are not at all.

VigilantGuardian
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The best book I read on this issue was "The Heirs of the Prophet Muhammad and Roots of the Sunni-Shia Schism" by Barnaby Rogerson. He is very respectful to Islam and explores the issues from both authentic Sunni and Shia sources.

Politically I would identify with Shia people and fight for Hussein RA. However, theologically, Sunni Islam makes more sense to me. Shia theology gave too much weight to the imams that most of them claim the imams are needed for intercession, which to me is very similar to praying to Jesus instead of the "Father".

I have said for 10 years almost that my heart is Sunni but I have huge soft spot for early struggles of Prophet Muhammad's family. It's after reading that book I softened my stance on Shia people. Historically they were considered Muslims. All the early scholars allowed them to attend Hajj.

dnajournal
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Allah has decreed about slander and hatred of Islam and Muslims until doomsday arrives, this is to test our faith, May Allah protect and keep our iman in Islam...

vikaedelbertha
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Fun fact, Iran was a Sunni land ...Persians were Sunni, and many Sunni scholars came from Persian origins.
Persians were forced to convert to Shisim, BY FORCE, in the 15th century by the Safavid Dynasty, whom of Turkic and Persian origin from Baku (current day Azerbaijan).

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"That was a community that had already gone before. For them is what they earned and for you is what you have earned. And you will not be accountable for what they have done." [Quran 2:134]

muksumularafin
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5:14 wtf are you talking about bla bla bla.... Telling the real hadith. If you are are true Muslim you would know that prophet of Allah have some qualities in them.
This hadith about Hazrat umar is not authentic at all and we don't believe in it.
Allah chooses those who are sinless and if you take Hazrat Umar, his half life has gone in the worshiping of Idols. He doesn't suit for a prophethood cause he doesn't have the qualities which must be in a prophet.
And the is no hadith of Rasool SAW where he designated his successor except in Ghadeer e khum where the prophet took imam ali's hand hand said "For whomever i am his mola, ali is now his mola oh allah love those who love ali and be the enemy of those who are the enemy of ali"

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I m Muslim from Bangladesh. Islam came here in Bengal in 13th century. If i would born in prophet Muhammad (sw)'s time i would definitely fought in side of Ali(ra) and imam Hussain. I love them as well i love 4 Caliphs. I love all Muslims irrespective of sects because main fundemantal is "There is no God but one God Allah and prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is his final messenger".
We just can't say others non Muslim until they believe in kalima and leave alone other things.

Khanraine
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Brother jan, each individual will be judged individually and not by the group they subscribe to. Of course there are extremist shias who hold radical views but the same could be said about terrorist groups operating under the umbrella of sunnism. 3:25, you mention it right here, they agree about the tenents of faith and disagree about the political turbulence which occurred almost 1400 years ago. So what sense does it make to generalise a large group of believers as kufar? I urge you for your sake to revaluate your views on this matter and avoid blindly subscribing to the views of closed-minded extremists who are the cause of the ummahs division and weakness.

relio
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5:05 it is a fake hadith brother, don't you know that that prophet (PBUH ) often mentioned the likeliness of Prophet Moses & Haroon (PBUT) to himself and Imam Ali ....

vladimirputin
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I am Palestinian and Czech Shi'i, btw. I invite all Europeans to Islam and Shi'a Islam is not expansionist and would have invited Europe more effectively and not militaristically like the Turks who scared Europe away from the religion. This was Allah's will but the future is with Iran and its allies.

The Prophet(sawas) was an Arab and he stated that the Persians will have the Greatest Share in Islam. This means that their Islam will have the greatest impact and this is not by numbers it is by quality and Shi'a has a spiritual quality that has been lost to Saudi influenced modern Sunni Salafism.

The Family of the Prophet and love for them purify the religion without needing to nitpick at details as the spirit of the Prophet remained with them.

AFriendofAllTimes
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Shias are muslims, and its very unfair to call them kafir, when they worship Allah and follow quran. They follow 12 islamic scholars, all grand sons of prophet muhammed (pbuh), what is the problem with that? I think before spreading false information and calling millions of muslim brothers and sisters kafir you have to go and read books from both sides. I also suggest you travel to countries like iran to see whether you find them kafirs or muslims with diffrent view points than yours in minor topics, not in things like tawhid. May Allah guide us all.

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It’s not true, Shias are as Muslim as Sunni. By definition As long as one believes in one god and the prophet Muhammed as a last prophet the person is Muslim. Shia Sunni division was of political nature.

syedmustafa