Was Fatima (ra) Murdered? Debunking a Prevalent Shia Belief: with Abdullah Al-Rabbat

Abdullah’s Twitter handle:

Chapters:
Introduction & Methodological Considerations: 00:00-37:10
Warranted Precaution: 37:11-57:03
What Actually Happened?: 57:04-2:20:51
Kitāb Sulaym ibn Qays and its Issues: 2:20:52-2:55:57
Conclusion: 2:55:58-end

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[ababa]

Salamualakum Paul,
Paul, I don't take you as a man of bias considering you converted to Islam from Christianity. I highly recommend you study the biography of Ali ibn Abi Talib, a well thought out and researched version. Spend time with this biography because it is important. Mute the Sunni and Shia labels...just study the man. Study his dedication to the Prophet (pbuh), his actions, his words, his context in history.

"Do not look at the personalities and then judge the truth. Instead, first look at the truth and then judge the personalities."
--Ali ibn Abi Talib at the battle of the Camel

[ericisreal]

I am disappointed that you don't talk to the Shia only talk about them. I would like to see a debate of two scholars of similar prominence

[LeMuseHere]

This should be a debate with an actual Shia scholar. Bukhari narrates from Aisha (3093), that Fatima died angry and refused to speak with Abu Bakr and Omar.

This talk immediately begins with "forgery", from the Shi'i perspective, as if the Sunni perspective is correct. The narrations are in Sunni narrations. Maybe the sunni narrations are forged?

[alimohammadkhan]

Whoever tortured Fatima Zahra tortured the Messenger of God

[Lovequran]

I dont understand why there's a debate occurring about Shia beliefs without the presence of a Shia??? The lack of a representative of the group whose beliefs are being debated invalidates the debate, in my opinion.

[mohammadalig]

Thank you Brother Paul. As a Shia myself, I went into this debate with a prayer for Allah (swt) to guide me. I have to be honest though, I don’t think the video was as convincing as it claims to be. There is a YouTube Channel called Bayat Al Ghader that has made a 16 part video series on this topic and I think that the points they bring up are still true, so while I find the video a great explanation of the Sunni perspective, it doesn’t answer the points raised by the Bayat Al Ghader videos.

I think bringing the folks over on that channel to show the Shia perspective would be great.

Thank you once more for the video, but I hope Shia are brought on to show their perspective too!

Wishing the best Brother Paul !

[hussain]

May peace be upon Her and Her father as well as husband Mola Ali, and upon their progeny.aameen

[AsifShah-hjjj]

I would like to hear evidence of a Shia as this would be fair.

[AlHfive]

I'm sorry to say that the brother already places assumptions with biases of 12'ers... I have read the events all from the Sunni sources, which was to understand how oppressed the lady Fatima (ra) was.

[nmkzf]

The result was taken before the study presentation

[MY-sydd]

Are you going to have a shiite on the channel to allow for a rebuttal? I will unfollow until you do because I don’t come here for sunni propaganda

[maz]

I did not see any debunking. Bibi Fatimah (A.S.) was killed by Umar. Laanat on him for eternity. No one can change that.

[M_A_R_I_A_M_]

Most comment are very negative about shiites. Please have respect. Shiites are muslims. I cant believe that this division is still on. Instead of divisions, we should all unite. Prophet Mohamed PBU was not sunni or shia.

[khanazhar]

In today's world nobody is ready to discuss this issue, and from this point of view many of the people are misguiding unknown people, you have dared to deal with that, open hearty salute😊😊😊

[shafighori]

How the Sunnis of Iran were forced to convert into shiaiism by Shah Ismail I who declared himself Mehdi and lost the battle with ottomans, he introduced twelver shiaism into Asia

[abdulvahid]

Allah teala only knows what happened, He teala will judge rather it happened or not, but beloved ummi Fatima as died in sorrow
People have no right to judge about this issue, essentially hearing not the other side of story however the claim is
Like story of prophet Dawud as and 99 sheeps

[muhammadmurtazanasir]

23:22, you will find proofs of your proclaimed conspiracy theory in sahih bukhari when he drops the name of culprits, in Fathul Bari, the explanation of Bukhari by Asqalani etc…

[Hamzeeism]

You can debate whether she was killed or not but what is clearly established is that her house was attacked by sahaba led by Umar, her property of fadak gifted to her by the Prophet was taken from her, and she died angry with Abu Bakr and Umar. These are not trivial matters that you can just pass over

[taimur]

Not just Omar ra .. it is a horrible slander against Ali ra also