Working long hours? Do NOT take this “deal” (it’s a trick!)

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When I was a kid, I remember my dad was a manager for Radio Shack. Managers got paid less to work overtime. His pay was cut in half for any hours he worked over 40 hours a week. This was probably 30 years ago, but even as a teenager, I was shocked that was legal.

HellenaHanbasquet
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My dad's union contract was 1.5 after 8 hours, then 2 x after 9 from punch in punch out.

Over 50 hours a week was 3x.

Support unions.

bogella
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Old boss would angrily ask why I got overtime. She didn’t like that I would repeat the company motto. Of doing what is right for the client. She did the same tactics mentioned.

powcar
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I worked at Victoria Secret distribution center. They had us work one hour over Monday thru Thursday and Friday sent us home 4 hours early. I've seen employers not follow union contracts as well. In the contract we were to be paid overtime for anything over 8 hours in one day. One time they tried to be sneaky and not do it. I also recall the company buying out a bunch of people that gave their time to the company 15, 20 years. The HR lady told me those people were spoiled. Employers don't really treat people as well as they should. I stop putting my heart into it and stopped taking what they say personally

maggie
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The late or early the next day thing is only in CA. Everywhere else in America, this would be legal as long as you're under the 40 hours a week, but even 40 hours and 1 minute has some overtime pay attached.

awesomesause
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Here in the Netherlands it works differently. If you work more hours in your workweek than stipulated in your contract, you can get those hours as paid time off at a different time.. You CAN choose to get your overtime paid, but there’s a higher tax rate.

My mom spent a long time collecting those overtime hours so she could retire a couple of years earlier.

nyls
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At UPS part-timers get OT after 5 hours in a day, as well on your 6th day working. You are almost always sent home by 4.5 hours. That and the best health insurance in the country for $30 per month are the only reasons to work there.
The company cares nothing about it’s employees overall….

andysimmons
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Not only that, but when they're trying to cut your hours for overtime, they work you even harder. You produce even more work than you're getting paid for. 😅

fburnsDubstepEnderFox
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I worked for Allied universal, And they did this a lot, like a lot a lot like they still do it I imagine I don't work for them anymore but they don't change. What would happen is you know they would have you do a 16-hour shift, And then at the end of the shift they would tell you to not come in the following day, And the reason why I took on extra hours is to make extra money and that's why most people did it.

So after a while the people who are looking for overtime just stopped picking up shifts because they knew Allied would just tell them not to come in the following day.

And then they started instituting mandatory stay overs where they would tell you you have to stay tonight and then they would tell you don't come in tomorrow. And it got to the point where people just basically said "Okay I'm not staying you can fire me if you want"

MrJjones
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I had a boss who had me listed as an independent contractor, even though he determined my start and ending hours and how I did my job. I liked the guy, and still do, but I had to call him out for this.

tartfuel
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Back in the early 90's I worked 42 hours a week. I was considered "salaried" for the first 40 hours, and then paid straight time for the other 2.

kchall
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Seen this before also some employers that actually want their employees to stay have had the anything over eight hours is over time. I am not leaving this job at all!

foracal
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I’m from California and their labor laws are so ahead of the game.

SoCalRegisteredNurse
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If that's wage theft, I'd like you to talk to every boss I've ever had.

Warriormedic
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They still do this shit at Walmart. If I remember correctly, time starts over on Saturdays so they'd force you to clock out early and take an extra long lunch so that you wouldn't get even close to 40. Full time employees have to have benefits, and they like to keep everyone at 32 hrs a week. They could make you work 6 days straight and you'd still wouldn't get 40 hrs or OT

RoyalReyna
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I don’t really see this as a “trick”. I’d happily work 4x10 hour shifts and take a three day weekend. That’s a lunch I don’t have to pack, two commutes I don’t have to make, and a whole extra day I get to spend zero mental energy on work.

hlio
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I'm going to say that this works both ways. If I had to take time off for an appointment then my employer allowed me to work extra hours that day or during the week so I'd get a full pay check. I was really grateful for that flexibility as I was a single mum and needed every penny of my paycheck. They even let me work in other departments to gain enough hours. This allowed me to become well versed in the workings of other departments and got me promoted to systems analyst because I knew how every department's system worked. I became a key employee with security clearance to access the building at any time of day to fix issues.

LovinglfDesigns
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The semi conductor industry had some creative ways to avoid overtime pay. My shift would be wrapped around midnight, the weekends and days off. So you work 12.5 hours a day for 6 days in a row but somehow get no overtime. Thankfully this is no longer legal in my state. It doesn't help me now but I am glad that I don't work in the industry anymore.

BreaTheBrat
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The only thing I've ever heard of CA doing right.

brentc
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More videos on the flavors of wage theft please

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