How does WIDTH work in FM24? | Tactics Zone | Football Manager 2024

Assumptions are the enemy. What does width actually do in FM24?

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[hungotuan]

You should study Tempo next Mustermann, the things Positional Play coaches are obsessed with 😂

[TheDeepLyingPlaymaker]

This is incredible... one of the best tactical videos I've ever seen

[PainfullyMintE]

My god. Once again, you've just activated entirely new areas of my brain in regards to this game. This is incredible, I would love to see more videos like this, especially with examples like the one at the end which put it to use against an opposition weakness!

[PassionFMTV]

Incredible work! LOVE how you digest all the statistics to discover the 'hidden truth'. I can't express how much I had desired to get these gtids, overlays and distance between players in FM25 so it would be easier to analyze stuff like this! Well done! You are a legend!

[VodkaHellstorm]

I’ve been trying for two FMs now to achieve a Diniz-style pitch tilt just to see how far I can push the game, and this revealed to me that, in a way that seems counterintuitive to me given how relationist teams play through a tilt, I should have had it set to wide this whole time.

[RK-ghmv]

I have been playing FM for many years. The best width is maximum width and I have confirmed this many times with my own tests. I tried to play narrow but for me that is a defensive option. And in FM it pays to play exclusively offensively and therefore only wide. The second option of reloading the wing was shown super. Great video. You and DLP create the best video about FM. This is the opinion of someone for whom FM is a simple game

[kunleadelaja]

I salute you! Great analysis, visualisation and storytelling.

[josephchambers]

Fascinating! Best FM video I've seen in a while, amazing work!

[erdemdemirkan]

incredible video man, appreciate the effort you gave into that

[goggins]

dude you explain things really good, happy to have found your channel. been playing fm for a long time and i thought that means that just players stay wider haha, earneda like & sub my G

[vmaretto]

I love you so much! this series gonna be fire 🔥

[trxplem]

I love your videos and this one in particular feels like you have read my mind!

[hungotuan]

9:53 I think I can answer this. A 3-4-3 when narrow will be a cluster fuck of players that the match engine, being coded entirely on the basis of positional play (equal spacing to be exact) can't handle. 3-5-2, I don't know...

Nice vid as always Mustermann!

[michaelodoi]

You smashed it champ !!!😅
Tempo is next and probably analysis tool frequently shown in the second half of the game

[VRNocturne]

Nice research and observations - thanks for sharing 😃

I always liked using the widest setting because the description says it tries to stretch the play over the entire playing surface or something like that. Feels like that would stretch the defense, leaving room for mobile players to find spots to perform.

I've experimented with the focus play down left/right (and both on at the same time). I'm not sure what it did, if anything, for the team.

I'm playing a 4-2-4 with the wide defenders being in the wingback position (as opposed to the fullback position set to play like wingbacks). This shape might already encourage the players to go wide with the offensive width setting, maybe explaining why I saw little difference in scoring or who got involved for assists. I have noticed the two center mids hanging out more near the corners of the box instead of close to the center, just as you noted in your findings. One is a CAR so he will naturally drift wider but the other is a BBM so he's "box-to-boxing" closer to the edges of the boxes than the middle around the "D" or the spot.

Edit to add: The two strikers are also more willing to spread wide. That could be more their CF roles (one A, one S) but maybe the max width setting encourages them to roam to the byline if they think it makes sense. Sometimes I've seen my IW and CF on one side look like they've switched positions even!

[ernesto]

you are approaching classic naturalist behavior. thank you so much, and godspeed

[cuakcuakful]

Destroyed Atletico Madrid 4-0 in away leg in the CL quarter finals with Leipzig, took a chance with this option and the counter attacks occupied the spaces on the sides a lot more, so at least that was a clear effect of playing wider. I also noted that players although they had the option to focus playing on the middle, the APM would pick the ball and carry it towards the sidelines and creating more spaces. Thanks for the informative video

[RogerRoids]

I know this would take an ungodly amount of time and would not at all be worth it, but it would be interesting to see which of the differences you found between the different formations and settings are statistically significant. Either way, incredible video as always.

[jimmoriarty]

Great Video! I have to say, i would have hoped for a bit more difference between the 2 extrems. did you look at the pass-maps and how they change with both settings? a video like this about tempo/pacing directness would be great, too

[MattMajcan]

i wish you'd also do a test of the middle option. i know it seems obvious it should be in between the two extremes but id like to see if thats actually true or if theres any differences