Is Imane Khelif a Male ? Olympic Boxing Controversy

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In this video, we discuss the controversy surrounding Algerian boxer Imane Khelif, who identifies as male. Learn more about this unique situation in the boxing world
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Then Olympics metric should not depend on weight and age but also testerone level😅

karthikkeyansmk
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It's just one of those days where Science failed humanity

wizdomwalker
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Don't use the wrong India map in videos. As per Indian law it's punishable offences.

sounderraj
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இண்டர் செக்ஸ் நபராக இருந்தால் அவர் இண்டர் செக்ஸ் பிரிவில் விளையாட வேண்டும். அவர் பெண்ணுடன் விளையாட கூடாது.
If the person is really an intersex person, they must take part in intersex category not in woman's category.

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Imane Khelif, a man, boxed against Angela Carini during the Olympics. Some people are upset, others are defending this, some are saying the criticism directed at Khelif is just a plot to get Algeria disqualified.

Khelif had been disqualified from professional boxing in the female category before because the IBA did two sex tests on him and the IBA claims that the results show that he is a man cheating by pretending to be a woman. Same as another controversial boxing contestant for the female category, Lin Yu-ting.

Neither of them contested their disqualification in the end which makes it even more suspicious.

The IOC discontinued all sex testing years ago, their only eligibility criteria are now whether someone has the marker for female on their passport. This is why both of the boxers were still able to participate in the Olympics.

Khelif won against his opponent after just 46 seconds. Carini took a punch to the face (there are claims he broke her nose) and forfeited the match, saying she had never been hit this hard before.

Carini was seen visibly angry and in tears, on her knees, repeatedly saying “it’s not fair”. Just like Lin Yu-ting’s opponent, she refused to shake hands. Khelif nonetheless approached her twice, smirking, and even groped her breast after winning.

A lot of people were understandably upset. The IOC issued a statement claiming that the true victims of the situation were the two male boxers.

Now, are they male? Yes.

The IBA defines “woman” as someone with XX-chromosomes, so this leads us to the conclusion that both Lin and Khelif at the very least tested positive for Xy. The test results are available to individual journalists.

Alleged childhood pictures of Khelif surfaced, showing him in pink clothes leading us to believe he was raised as a girl.

His father also presented to the public Khelif’s birth certificate that classifies him as “female”, however, strangely, the birth certificate was only issued in 2018, 19 years after his birth and right at the start of Khelif’s professional boxing career.

Both Imane’s and Lin’s passport is saying they are “female.” Many people have pointed out that a marker on a passport is not indicative of sex in the first place, since many countries have self-identification laws that allow women and men to change their legal sex marker at will. Algeria however is not one of those countries.

Now, there are few disorders of sexual development that can lead to women having Xy chromosomes. Imagine it like this: you have an X and a y and the y malfunctions in some way, leaving only the X.

One of them is Swyer syndrome, which I’ve seen people claim Khelif has. First, there’s no proof for this. Second, there are documentaries about women with Swyer syndrome and Khelif looks nothing like them. I think it’s pretty apparent from his appearance that Khelif has functioning testicles. He has a male frame, Adams apple, male muscle-to-fat ratio, a male voice and wingspan. A now scrubbed online profile of Khelif inside the IOC’s internal system revealed he has high, presumably male level testosterone. There are even pictures of his that show what is clearly male genitalia. Women with Swyer do not develop male genitalia and only produce female levels of testosterone. They also have to go on female hormone replacement therapy to go through puberty.

More claims debunked:
“The IBA is lying because uh… Russia”

The lab that did the first test is a US-American reference lab and, as well, accredited by CAP, the Northfield, Illinois-based College of American Pathologists, and certified by the ISO, the Swiss-based International Organization for Standardization. The second test was done in New Delhi and turned out identical to the first.

Besides, what kind of incentive would the Russian government have to defend an Italian boxer over an Algerian one? That makes no sense to me. Just btw, the IOC is deeply connected to the WEF. This is not a political issue though, unless we make it.

Both Taiwan and Algeria wrote to the IBA and threatened consequences were they to publish the test results.

It is also worth noting that in 2023 Khelif already accused Morocco of plotting against Algeria by supposedly “getting him disqualified.”

“She is a woman on testosterone”
Khelif is not a woman on testosterone. If that were true, “she” would have to be disqualified for doping. But apart from the fact he has Xy, women who take androgens, even the ones taking a male amount of them, still have female frames. This is me speaking from experience: just look at videos, best unedited, of women on high amounts of testosterone moving. You’ll see they look and move nothing like him, even if they have more muscle and beards.

“She has a uterus and fallopian tubes”
False and entirely based on the fabricated claim that Khelif has Swyer syndrome.

“Khelif has lost to women before, so she must be a woman”
Even cheaters lose sometimes. And even a loser man has no place in women's boxing.

Of course, it is possible that Khelif has lost several times on purpose.

William “Lia” Thomas, who swam with the women as a man in the USA, was caught several times deliberately not paddling his legs to make the difference between himself and the women look smaller.

Here is a quote from Mexican Brianda Tamara, against whom Khelif boxed in 2022:

“When I fought with her, I felt very out of my depth; her blows hurt me a lot. I don’t think I had ever felt like that in my 13 years as a boxer, nor in my sparring with men. Thank God that day I got out of the ring safely, and it’s good that they finally realized [that he is a man].”

And from boxer Joana Nwamerue who trained with Khelif:

“[Khelif] has some kind of internal issues. But he is a man. I will stay [by] my words until he/she does a test to prove to the world that he/she is a WOMAN. But we all know that won’t happen. [Khelif’s] teammates came to me and told me ‘[Khelif] is a woman and just lives high in the mountains with her relatives and parents and so there may be a change in her testosterone or chromosomes and the like. So myself and my coach watched [Khelif] and I said ‘that can’t be possible.’ Everywhere has people living in the mountains. It’s absurd.”

Nwamerue adds that her coach replied by noting that other world and European boxing federations had implemented bans on him, and that “only the Olympics” was allowing Khelif to compete.

Rafa Lozano, former Olympic boxer and the Technical Commissioner of the Spanish boxing team:

“Whoever we put [Khelif] with was injured.”

“She was born female”
Fact is, we know he is registered as female. We don’t know why that is, but reasons could be: botched circumcision, born with ambiguous genitalia, parents wanted a girl (unlikely since transgenderism is illegal in Algeria). Personally, I think the second reason is true.

Caster Semenya is another man who competed as female, but later fathered a child with sperm from his internal testicles. Semenya has what’s called 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency. That means Semenya is a normal man whose testes just didn’t drop. In some cases, they drop later.

More things that don’t add up but aren’t proof of anything on their own:
Khelif, coming from a rural Muslim community, was never seen wearing a hijab.

There exist several pictures of him wearing a groin protector specifically for men, never for women. Right after his fight against Carini he was seen doing something on stage that many men seem to recognize as “adjusting his junk.”

Conclusion: to clear things up and avoid spreading misinformation, we should put pressure on the IOC and the athletes to undergo sex testing in a way that ensures we are getting correct unbiased results.

And yes, the media and many disingenuous people online are lying about about this situation and the athletes’ sexes.

UPDATE: Due to his victory against Anna Luca Hamori, Khelif secures a bronze medal and moves on to the semi-finals. Hamori posted an AI-generated picture before the fight showing her confronting a giant monster man. The fact that she has a lighter color in the picture, while Khelif is shown with darker skin, adds fuel to the fire of a discussion about racism that has flared up on Twitter/X.

After the fight against Lin Yu-ting that secured him bronze, Staneva, his opponent, made a double X sign with her hands.
“I only want to play with women, I am double X.”

Khelif is now on track to win a gold medal, same as Lin.

During the semi-finals against Turkey's Esra Yıldız Kahraman, Lin threw several illegal rabbit punches. Rabbit punches are punches to the back of the head that are illegal in all martial arts including boxing because they have a chance to cause paralysis or death.

He first caught Kahraman at the back of the head with a big left hand that saw Kahraman stumble into the ropes and “showed no mercy” as he hit his opponent despite her facing the other way and holding her arm up.
The referee only stepped in when Lin landed one more final blow to the back of Kahraman’s head.

Despite loud boos from the crowd, Lin avoided being punished.

The IOC is copyright striking videos on YouTube showing the incident.

For comparison: These same Olympics, Vinesh Phogat, a female Indian wrestler, was disqualified from the Olympics for weighing 100 grams more than 50 kgs.

evil_radfem
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The chromosomes decides the gender. Women with PCOD issues doesn't have XY chromosome. It is only due to hormonal imbalance and improper lifestyle. Do not confuse people.

suviz
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To those criticizing the map, it's probably a stock video asset that was made before the map changed. This is not a video about geopolitics. Stop being hypercritical.

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இவ்வளவும் பண்ணிட்டு நீங்க இந்திய வரைபடத்தை தவறாக போட்டது ஏன்.

Arunmozhisuresh
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It doesn't matter whether Imane grew up like a woman or not. The fact is if he has an XY chromosome then his muscle strength is naturally higher than a woman...which has an advantage especially in boxing. One's feelings shouldn't be attacked/defended solely on counterpart's feelings.A Fact is a fact. Emotions and feelings goes both ways.

Shiba-Inu
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Bro, most of them telling that Imane has y chromosome so she won the match but this not applicable . Remember that she worked a lot for her career, if they think these genetical thing is the reason for her success, that is only 3% remaining 97%only because of her hard work .
I request to those people don't blame her, she is doing lots &lot's of hard work✨

gnanasekaran
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Do they accept if she participates in “Men’s” boxing? What do they do then? Never participate in any sports?

ahamedabdulrahman
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No one bothered about when disqualified santhi for same reasons in Asian games

nare
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Then IOC should consider the norms set by the IBA because it’s a dedicated body for boxing as a sport, now a person who has failed the criteria set by IBA was able to fight in IOC is not right .The problem is this person has a clear advantage with her / his condition .

PravinKumar-rpji
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Bro na kuda thapa nenaichen bro anna silla media la avanga transgender nu sonnaga cheai evanugala lam thirutha mudiyathu eni ennatha news sum na theriyama pesa matten😢

sivastarlord
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Modhalla indian map sariya podunga da.

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நீங்க ரெண்டு பேரையும் நெனச்சு வருத்தப்படுங்க. ஒருத்தர மட்டும் நெனச்சு வருத்தப்பட்டா இன்னொருத்தர் கோவிச்சிக்குவார்.

Lokeshkumar_alk
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We need to sympathise for Angela… to avoid confusion and controversy we shall remove transgender rights in sports… people like imane khelif can have their own format rather than creating turmoil in sports

mohamedrafeeknawaskhan
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It is humble request, use Indian flag properly in your video. I can see some missing part in Indian flag

namantrivedi
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Apo Tamil Nadu athlete Shanthi kum idhe prechana thaan… Aana apo oru payalum velakkam kudukala support pannala… Aana oru international topic nu vandha odane aal aal ku video potu oru issue aaka vaendiyaadhu…. Today Shanthi oda life and lifestyle ae pochu… adha paththi kooda oru payalum pesala😐😐😐😏😏😏😏😏😏😏💯

thiyanesverd
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When you say disorder then they cannot compare with normal. We can compare disorder to disorder. And normal with normal so there will be equal fight.

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