Why did Carl Jung avoid meeting the famous Indian saint Ramana Maharshi?

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Carl Jung visited India for the first time in the 1930s and met a lot of prominent people, but failed to meet Ramana Maharshi. People were shocked when they learnt that Jung had not met Ramana Maharshi. A few years later, Carl Jung wrote about his experiences in India and did not explicitly mention his regret of not meeting the enlightened Indian guru, but deep down he did feel that he might have missed a golden opportunity to meet a great man. Many have suggested that Carl Jung would not have been able to handle being in the presence of a man who knew himself. He could not have handled his science-based illusions of psychiatry and the mind shattered. Others have suggested that just spending time with him may have brought him to self-realisation, which is why he may have avoided the meeting altogether. Whatever the reason may have been, Jung would have realised that the study of the mind can only take you so far and the path of spiritual mysticism is the way.

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An Excellent & Wonderful documentary....Thank you🙏

debjitbera
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Personally I think the reason why Jung didn't go and see Ramana is the fear that he will be totally overwhelmed. One of the things that a real enlightened man involuntarily does to those in his presence is to emanate silence. In that silence all karmic vasanas will get destroyed. It may seem strange but there is real fear in some people for this because when one's vasanas are destroyed, one loses one's personality. That is the death of the ego. For some that is what they really want. For others who are not quite ready, that can be a very frightening prospect indeed.

consciousnessbasedcosmos
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In his writing about his visit to India and meeting that holy man he met Jung must have given us one of the most beautiful descriptions of what makes a saint a Saint: “He has found a meaning in the rushing phantasmagoria of being, freedom in bondage, victory in defeat.”

cssml
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This was undoubtedly a mistake on Jung’s part. He most certainly should have visited Maharshi.

EMAGA
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A lot of words to say "I guess I was scared"..

Unnecessarily so.

AndreasDelleske
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This may be the only time I've heard Jung bullshitting himself. He was simply afraid.

yacovmitchenko
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I understood it he found someone better. And meeting the man could have been a disappointing.
Most importantly what he needed came to him.
Ending the circle for himself. I don't think he wanted to be a mystic.
He wanted to be what he became.
Without him his branch would have never been the same.
He walked his path and followed his council.
And that is good so.

leroypennant
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In some ways Jung understood that the Real Sri Ramana Maharshi was not residing at Arunachala . Genuinely Enlightened Sages are not limited by time or space, that it is why it is still possible to feel His Living Presence here and now. 🙏🕉️🕊️

michaeldillon
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I think that was the longest answer I have ever heard for a simple question but then he did not really even answer the question lol!

thomashusted
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I've been a student of Ramana and Jung for several decades and believe that Jung avoided meeting Ramana because he understood what Ramana represented was a transcendence of the psyche Jung was so ardently
intrigued with. Jung was so entranced and attached with the sphere of mythical experience (yogis might regard as the "astral"), and a meeting with Ramana would require him dropping all of that. I think this video affirmed this understanding.

maximkramer
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For those interested: Peter Kingsley, a famous and too much neglected original scholar of the pre-socratic thinkers Parmenides, Empedocles and Zeno of Elea, wrote a two volume piece of work on Jungs 'mysticism' (Catafalque), certainly not from the perspective of oriental wisdom, but from Jung's own background and interest in historical phenomena like alchemy. Highly recommended.

henripepels
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Rationalization, the downfall that is western intellectualism.

LewisPuseyOK
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I’m deeply grateful for both of them.
Jung was incredibly spiritual while incorporating the worldly mind too.
I’ve been using Ramana’s self inquiry for years.
I love both of their hugely significant contributions to both myself and the world.

youarewhatyourelookingfor
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Sri ramana must smile with love at this

caseyeckels
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Jung's words on this are a bunch of fluffy goofiness masking his immense neurotic phobia of the changes that might take place in himself if he were to meet an enlightened being. Because such an experience I think he feels intuitively might undercut his ego too close for comfort and so he avoided having such an experience as that it was deemed personally threatening. I don't believe Jung neglected to meet Romana Maharshi because he feared being disappointed but because he had this fear of losing part or all of the ego structure which he had built and cherished.

shadeeason
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Just ordered a book "Apprenticed to a Himalayan Master " written by Sri M . A Muslim born man who in his early age went to Himalayas in search of Mystic and came back as a Yogi . India is full of mysticism and interesting stories for sure .

booknolr
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When I was Ramanashram the Master has been longtime dead but his presence was still there

miguelmarino
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Here I'm thinking why i born such late, why i couldn't meet the ancient soul Shri Ramana. And here a guy who knew very well still did not meet thinking Ramana be just another mystic. One glance from Ramana could have liberated you man. Intelligence causes barrier in surrender for sure.

ramcool
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Wow! Thank you! Gives such a glimpse into the great intellectual of Jung!!

lisaclausen
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He did meet him. Not in person as everyone wanted him to do, he encountered him as that, what Maharshi really was, and that is not a person or a guru, so he met him in the spirit of India on a much deeper level than personhood could ever describe.
Maybe he could not bring that experience into his own teaching, but maybe, that was'nt the way it should have been. Those, who believed he should have met him, they themselves have not understood or felt, what was represented in the form of Maharshi. They just saw in him a Person, a holy man, someone who had reached a certain state, they themselves wanted to their thoughts and suggestions came from the illusion of separation.
If you really open up to the words of Carl Jung in his summary regarding his visit in India you can feel the holy spirit, that is represented in anyone, in everything, no matter, what you call it.

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