Boring Company Utility Tunnels : Part 1 - A Future Money Printer 💰 😉 🚇 Episode #90

Todays episode explorers the real possibility of moving utilities into purpose built tunnels and ending all the problems associated with buried services (gas, water and electricity). Often road works in major cities last for years and many services are expensive to maintain, replace and repair thus as tax payers we all foot the bill for these works and often don't realise it. . .

A better way to route services exists and it is economical to achieve with very many benefits to both the utility provider, road users and utility customers. Not only is it way easier to maintain but it can allow for quick and easy expansions to many modern services such as broadband, cooling, district heating and super charging ! ! !

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[gneruinseruihnutshnu]

How would you solve these two problems of TBM bored utility tunnels (1) branching - while there is enough space to put utilities and worker space in a straight tunnel, how would you solve branching, where all these tubes and cables and workers needs to cross each other (2) utilities are commonly located very close to ground level. Well, houses are on the ground level. At levels right below ground level, digging is actually cheaper then TBM and TBM is not usable this close to the ground level. And, there are places in the europe that uses such (dig out) tunnels already occasionally.

[vernstanley]

Really all you need is water, electricity, and data fiber. Ultimately every technology is electrifying. So, piping natural gas, cooling fluids, heating fluids is just a legacy technology that is being supplanted by more efficient and versatile electricity. If you read Jeremy Rifkin's "Third Industrial Revolution", you will see a case made for electricity approaching a near zero marginal cost in the near future.

[dyork]

Thank you Will, very exciting prospects indeed

[johnhanson]

Likely can work but: The problem I see is that every building needs to be connected to the utility tunnel. It works well for trunk areas but the last mile connections get hugely expensive. So not sure how this can be done efficiently, also co-locating electrical and water for example creates safety hazards that need to be addressed.

[strykerace]

It has been proven constantly those items our utility service providers refuse to do the right thing to keep us safe, I would think that as a society we try to push real hard to deprecate gas, diesel, and hydrogen or anything else explosive in our future utility scale roadmaps. Past structures that have been built needing these services were built to waste 90% energy and didn't produce their own, going forward building construction will be significantly more advanced to waste little energy and can produce most of their own energy.

[strykerace]

Aren't fiberoptic and broadband the same thing?

[istiles]

Will, in place of city utilities in combination I'd propose the most important utilities into a city. Currently water transportation is incredibly problematic, ie, water from dam, etc., to treatment plant, then treated water to end user, and then from end user to a separate waste treatment plant and finally return of water to a river. The distances water is piped in to US cities is crazy - NYC gets it's water from up to 125 mi up state. I live about 85 mi from ATL, and they have plans to pipe water from the dams in rural mountain counties to ATL [in my case prior county administrations had determined to get water from the lower dams along a particular river that GA Power had dammed in the early 1900s, but ATL has the rights to extract water from a dam above 'ours', so if push were to come to shove, ATL could conceivably remove a large portion of our watershed prior to access by the local populace. Luckily (or un- when a pump breaks) I get my water from a well and use a septic system. Those in my county who do use county water have bills upwards of $60/mo, the water smells like a swimming pool, and at last count we lose at least 25% of all treated water due to leakage (in some places it is up to 50% - in my single county!] As another option, I could see tunnels as a potential for coal ash; currently power stations just have immense coal ash ponds, and when the dam breaks immense problems are created down stream, so if this could be safely stored underground it would solve issues like Hg seeping into ground water, etc. Just two ideas from the US to ponder. [Also, out west they lose incredible amounts of water to evaporation because it was cheaper to build canals to channel the water, you should check out the Colorado River. We diverted the entire river towards local use in AZ and then for SoCal, so that almost no water reaches the Gulf of Cortez in Mexico, Could see potential for tunnels here. AND you should check out water runoff gone wild in places like NV - just view a few videos of carnage from rainstorms miles away from Las Vegas, or Colorado Springs, and you'll note that though it happens infrequently, the ability to channel storm water could save lives and countless $B each year.]

[danielcarlson]

I have never heard of district heating before interesting one way to get heat it harvest it from battery's stabilizing and powering the grid? From UTAH keep up the good wortk

[TheKjelan]

I would combine this with the normal boring tunnel for transport. You need the middle square for transport in the round tunnel. Plenty of space left for some utility.

Most important would be that the tunnel network is mostly redundant. So you can flag any segment for maintenance and traffic or even utilities can get re-routed. With little or no impact to the user. So you can flag the section and immediately start the maintenance.

That way everything gets more reliable and maintenance is easier. So it should reduce costs while doing so.

And waste can be included using an autonomous garbage truck.

I think Vern is right. We only need fiber(data), water and electricity for these distances.

[gneruinseruihnutshnu]

Can you make also short to the point news-like videos, side by side with these debating ones?

[davidsalisbury]

I agree with much of what you say, but there is a major problem with combining utilities into a common tunnel as others have already mentioned.
However, there is currently a global industry doing this already. Utility tunnels have been over 50% of my career.
All major cities have utility tunnels of all shapes and sizes to meet specific needs using a variety of methods to construct (TBM tunnelling, pipe jacking, micro tunnels, HDD).
I don’t see what advantage TBC brings to the market.
A current common trend is replacing the ugly and controversial overhead power lines with cable tunnels. Again this is a current, mature thriving tunnelling market.

[wotireckon]

A bit off-topic I know, but do you reckon TBC could make the Boris burrow a reality?

[TheLeosepulveda]

wow, interesting channel. I subscribe

[romanhx]

You definitely need 2 tubes each for heating and cooling...

[LuficariusRatspeed]

Just remember: The Internet is a series of tubes.

[karenrobertsdottir]

From the Nitpickers' Society:

When a hydrogen pipeline exists in a pipe run, it is supposed to be the highest pipe in run, to reduce the risk of infiltration into other pipes. Hydrogen in general is not supposed to be transported underground, due to the risk of leaked hydrogen penetrating into and pooling in overhead structures (although one could, give the accessibility, probably make a safe system if sensors are available; indeed, they'd be absolutely necessary in order to reduce the explosion risk)

[SemajTtochpej]

Package delivery through these tunnels like PipeDreamLabs.co proposed could be an option as well

[DuelPorpoise]

Trains, I don’t know about you, but Even cargo trains in the US are heavily regulated and are getting very, VERY long in order to help companies stay solvent, most are now over a mile and a half in length.

I know such a train on routine route that makes a drop off near a residential area, the ever increasing length of these trains means its now triggering and closing a 4 lane road crossing for 20-30 minutes as it loads/unloads cargo.

To make things Worse for trains, in residential areas even when the tracks are fenced, train speed is reduced to 25-45mph or less.

But with a tunnel, the risk of pedestrians and car crossings is dramatically reduced, if not made impossible. And you can place the tunnel anywhere, allowing much higher speeds, not just because of urban areas, but geological constraints on speed as well.

One serious concern I is derailment with fire, fire almost occurs in every derailment and fire in a tunnel is one of the worst things that can possibly occur. With a derailment in a tunnel, access to any fire is likely to be cut off.

even with fire suppression built in, the odds of a train derailment wrecking suppression equipment in the same tunnel is higher than i’d Like.
On the other hand, since your in a secure tunnel used for, could you use other methods like halon gas systems?

[alanmay]

Utility tunnels are very expensive to build because they need many acces points and buildings/infrastructures to control/maintain all the installations. Depending on the city geography and natural conditions they might not be the ideal solution.

[calebenloe]

Good ideas but high voltage electricity and gas should NOT be in the same place.