Amazon CEO's LEAKED Conversation Reveals Stunning Truth About The Future Of Software Engineering

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00:00 - Introduction: AI's impact on software development
00:45 - Amazon cloud chief's comments on AI replacing coding
01:28 - AI's current coding capabilities
02:10 - Prediction: Developers not coding in 24 months
02:47 - Changing software development skills
03:26 - AI transforming developer roles
04:07 - Shift to innovation and user needs
04:38 - Long-term changes in software development
05:34 - Future of software developer roles
06:27 - Potential job market changes
07:45 - Optimistic view on creative opportunities
08:58 - Short-term increase in demand for software engineers
10:08 - Other tech leaders' similar predictions
11:58 - NVIDIA CEO's perspective on programming
13:09 - Balanced view: Addressing AI hype
14:53 - OpenAI's Software Engineering Bench
16:16 - Recent improvements in AI coding benchmarks
18:09 - Analysis of improvement rate and future predictions
20:27 - Grounding predictions in current data
21:40 - Importance of considering actual AI benchmarks
23:57 - Discussion of AlphaCode 2's performance
25:49 - Comparison to human software engineering roles
26:53 - Sam Altman on coding as a promising AI application
27:34 - Takeaways and future implications for software engineering

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It is not the strongest of the species that survives, not the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.
Charles Darwin

thinkbuddyai
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Keep in mind, folks.

"AI isn't good enough to do your job, but it's just good enough to convince your boss it can."

jasondisney
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This is dog eat dog world. We programmers are programming ourselves out of a job. We love to automate things. This is the ultimate consequences. Who is benefiting all these? The boss, business entrepreneurships will always win.

medusaskull
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Ever notice how no actual ML or AI engineer ever says things like this? It’s just a ploy to get investors to open their pockets

Eeezus
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Ceo and executives are eternally trying to battle against skilled workers who do the actual work, because their reliance on them is damaging to their ego’s.

womp
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I'm on an enterprise staff of about thirty software engineers and we've already concluded that our team will shrink by two thirds within three years due to AI. Glad I 'm retiring in two.

briankgarland
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A CEO is not a software engineer. The machine makes mistakes. It is not writing flawless code in one pass, and probably not in 10, and the inference costs are going to be huge if you try to create well performing, desirable user interfaces for complex applications. We don't have enough electricity for every company to switch to this means of creating programs.

People say things like "but the AI can work 24-7 365 days a year" but forget that you have to pay the inference costs of that amount of time, while also now creating a pipeline to test that code even more extensively than human code because of how it is made with the problems of hallucination/etc.

Oh, and due to training data, you now also have to worry about how court cases go with the whole matter of licenses and all that. And the work it produces isn't under copyright. You will need humans to be involved at a high enough percentage to get the effort counted by copyright.

If you run a company entirely off AI with this much legal uncertainty you're crazy. I think some people think if there are too many doing it at the same time the government can't possibly make bad rules that hurt them all but this forgets how stupid the government is.

Korodarn
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Now I see why the tech sector was the loudest proponents of UBI 💰 😎

HouseJawn
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The creator of this video has never coded before.

kasrakasra
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as a developer i would say this is true depending on what your working on if your building basics stuffs then it works fine but for complicated task you waste time with ai . i hate it most when it hallucinate the documentation

pempheromkuka
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Been programming for over 30 years, with the llm’s I just 10 time faster. I run different instances of ChatGPT and Claude in parallel, so now I’m doing more like an orchestral role. I can do react, python, sql and ansible / bash scripting in parallel and streamline ci/cd piping almost on my own. But I still want models with longer context windows and stronger inference, so in essence my role has not changed much.

mariusj
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At a point when software developer jobs are going away because of AI so are the jobs for doctors, lawyers, accountants, investment bankers, portfolio managers, teachers, and the list goes on. Maybe that is 24 months away, maybe not.

inhocsignovinces
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Well, if we reach a point where software engineers are no longer needed for their coding and reasoning skills, then pretty much every white-collar job is out of the gates. I don't know why everyone seems to be talking about software engineers are doomed, software engineers this and that.
Also not that worried about this fact any time soon because compute, electric power and low quality training data are still not solved. And there will be a need of orders of magnitude more power, compute and raw materials, unless we somehow manage to incorporate quantum computing with A.I, I don't see it happening in the next 5-10 years.

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All these CEO's know is that they think they dont need anybody else for anything if they invest their fortunes into their divine genius, this will not work out well..

OGmolton
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as a software engineer I diseagree, unless something else than a LLM gets out, but LLM won't replace us, too much hallucination and cannot innovate can only do thing that have already been done. I don't mean that what you ask have to be in the training data, but something similar, it's predicting words based on what it has read, nothing more.

So it cannot correlate 2 facts, make a conclusion, and innovate.

cours
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AI coding today is dog shit. Yesterday chatgpt and claud butchered my code, they would deny to spit back my own original code, they deleted the internal implementation of all my methods and i had to restore from backup.

AI is good for small tasks and pinpoint fixes only.

joaothomazini
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The whole point of using "programming languages" instead of "natural languages" for programming machines, is that they force you to express yourself exactly, to include every piece of information that's required.
If programming using prompts doesn't force you to include all the necessary information, then where does the omitted detail come from? It makes it up. So, what are you actually getting as the result?

It's the same reason we use exact technical drawings and CAD tools to make architectural diagrams of buildings, instead of drawing them on napkins with crayons. Yes, it's slower and requires more effort, and presumably costs more money, but there's a reason for that. You want to ensure that these drawings are as exact and detailed as possible, so that you don't get skyscrapers falling on your head every day.

sirgregoryadams
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This causes me a lot stress and depression

mistycloud
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I think one thing that no one talks about is if ai can automate coding, the engineers that were smart enough to code and put things together up and running manually, can now start exploring new technologies, new things. now that the most booring and slowest part is automated we can create more complex tools that were not possible before. So coding may die but i dont think software engineering is going anywhere.

thecodebear
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Now that AI can code, its capabilities will improve exponentially. The role of the programmer will eventually be accessible to anyone with AI access. Efforts are being made to keep programmers calm until their expertise is no longer required.

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