Chaos Rising - Thaddeus Betrayal

The Blood Ravens do not overlook betrayal.

[operationmeh]

"We do not overlook betrayal, Thaddeus."

Ice cold.

[TheHorreK]

I like his betrayal more and more everytime i watch/hear it. It just seems so realistic, that this naive "child" gets tricked through good intentions and falls into corruption

[dragonslair]

Thaddeus is the betrayer closest to Nurgle. He fears death, and he fears losing that which he loves most- his chapter. He was forced to contemplate his own mortality, and the loss of everything he cared for most, and in that moment of weakness, he succumbed and damned himself. He was willing to pay any price to avert change. That is the preferred method by which the servants of Nurgle lure victims into the Plague Lord's stagnant, ever-decaying embrace.

[OldIronJohnson]

I love the fact that at 2:30, Jonah just SHUTS DOWN Thaddeus completely. He can't even answer, because the only argument for serving Ulkair just went down.

[MurkonTrow]

"One so young to bear the burden of a space marine."

"He will grow no older, Librarian."

I empathized with this betrayal the most, but I remember it being much sadder than it actually was. More pity from Jonah, than condescension.

[TheSonOfDumb]

"He told me I would have to kill you one day..."
"I saved us ALL! Can't you see that?!"

Thaddeus, your logic is broken.

[MaitreKorda]

Thaddeus, an idealist who was tired of having no choice but to fight and die against more powerful ennemies, when Ulkair offered his help, his betreyal against his brothers' lives, he made the most important choice in his life, and the last.
He is a true hero, ready to damn his own soul to save his friends.

[SgtRynolds]

I like how everyone's betrayal is sad and emotional and then at the end of Thaddeus' nothing. Not much. No one cared about him.

[wingman]

Of all the betrayers, Thaddeus seems the most naive and headstrong. Just look how Jona seems to talk to him as a child

[OldIronJohnson]

As far as I understand it, each chaos god has a daemon prince that's their top guy, and then a greater daemon and Primarch who are roughly on par with each other. Khorne, for example, has Doombreed, followed by An'ggrath and Angron.

[mrfictioneer]

There's just something about that speech Thaddeus made before the fight- all his other remarks seem to indicate that he was genuinely remorseful over what he did, but that bit? If anything, it shows just how truly corrupted to the core he was.

[Lorgar]

Thaddeus reminds me of Lorgar.
"You chose this fight, not I!"
Bruh, you literally joined a daemon and traitor legion. Did you seriously not see this coming?

[andarara-cp]

"Holy TERRA! This planet is falling apart on our feet!"

[gautamankit]

The fool believed ulkair helped them defeat the tyranids, what a kid

[Pancombine]

his despair was feeding Ulkair and forced thaddeus to make a Bargain with the great unclean one but ambitions and hope of all blood ravens Feed the Great Tzeentch hahaha

[Baron]

I thought that the real ending was full purity, Avitus dead and Thaddeus and the Force Commander went their separate ways.

[valnavatnd]

4:07 Thaddeus fell down to die.

Excellent, Space Marines.

[LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit]

To sum all the sergeants' reasons for betrayal:

Cryus: Driven mad by the Chapter's incompetent leadership
Tarkus: Tried to save the Blood Ravens by damning himself to Kheyos.
Avitus: Driven mad by what the chapter has become.
Thaddeus: Wasn't faithful enough to the Emprah, and so he thought a daemon helped them.
Jonah: Was forced by a daemon of Nurgle.
Martellus: Grudge against the Blood Ravens for abandoning him after his Thunderhawk crashed/ Chaos had working tanks and the loyalists didn't.

[FreddeX]

Poor Thaddeus, in his situation i also think i would have made that choice... It is one thing to die, but to know that you can save your friends and yet do nothing... I wouldn't be able to handle that.

[splitjawjanitor]

When you get down to it, everything Thaddeus did if he was the Traitor would've been unnecessary. He doesn't make the bargain with Ulkair in all other scenarios, and the Blood Ravens survive the Tyranids anyway. As Jonah says, he damned himself for nothing.