What is socialism amd Communism - Jordan peterson #shorts

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"Communist State" Bro doesnt even know a Communist Society is Stateless

hugopereira
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“Communist state” is literally a contradiction in terms

rice
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Chile tried it properly then the US ruined it. Look into it

davefromhomedepot
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Peterson has become such a blatant sellout.

twftes
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Just fucking look at Cuba, who despite being embargoed constantly is doing better than it ever was before the revolution, or maybe Vietnam, who is a regional power in Southeast Asia.

GoofySillyGuy
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I may not know Marxist theory very well. But i know that orthodox marxist communism requires the complete abolition of class and overthrowing of the state. From what i gathered, it's supposed to be a complete Democratic and communal ownership system. Lenin and Mao had an idea of the world not being ready for this abolition and had to build a state that serves as a "guiding hand" that maintains the path towards this "inevitable" goal. Stalin obviously had other ideas. Obviously, history didn't show socialism that well and had some questionable people and questionable decisions with no proper checks and balances. The system itself seems problematic, but there is potential

Josurr_Madhawk
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Communist State? I'm not socialist but I would point out that a "Communist State" is an oxymoron.

BenjaminExequielReyesGaete
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He contradicted himself. If it has been tried properly, then China would have been a successful Communist state. There has never been a Communist state because a Communist state doesn't have a social class. There have been people that identify their nation, party or themselves as Communist, but I can claim the sky isn't blue too.

mactastic
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There's a saying within military circles, "No plan survives contact with the enemy."
The same, I feel, is true of idealistic forms of society and humanity.

Nathan_Heaps-Page
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Even if I wasn't a red why the fuck would I trust Jordan Peterson about literally anything

bruhidksomedumbshit
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This comment section has made me lose faith in humanity

Finnbobjimbob
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And how many have died in the U.S. over the past 50 years? 24 million in just 10 years.

raven
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“Communist state is contradictory”

It’s kinda the point he said it

jthablaidd
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I came here to point out how Peterson does not know what he's talking about, but it has been said, many times!
I love this feeling 😊

JasonGoodfellow
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Social Democracy, Public Welfare and Social Justice may live long 🌹

SB-tpjv
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i think dude should keep to psychology

exodoalcunhaabridordemares
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Jordan Peterson is supposed to be an intelligent figure who knows all about politics. Despite that, he doesn't even know the basics of communism.

tempejkl
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China, Cuba, and Vietnam are all proving that wrong without "me" running it, so I have no idea what Peterson is talking about. Maybe that used to at least superficially appear true, but now with the quality of the life in the West all simultaneously tanking it's pretty hard to make that argument.

AlexWilkinsonYYC
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It has been tried and does work and it's truth is in the name, "Commune." Marx derived his ideas from how people who live on communes like monasteries thrive in peace without exchanging money.
It's not applicable on a national scale in that way, for a regional example look at the Basque region of Spain and the reaction of Spains government toward them.i

DigitalDuelist
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i want to ask one question which mindset is followed by nordic countries like norway, finland etc... socialism or communism or capitalism 🤔

rohitbodra