More evidence John 6:44 CAN'T support Calvinism - episode 12.

Here we will see how the conclusions drawn by Calvinists in John 6:44 create contradictions in Matthew and Luke, and we will look at other passages in John 6 that show verse 6:44 REQUIRES the elements of free will and man's cooperation.

Link to our original John 6:44 video...

Link to our Matthew 23:37 video...

[salvadaXgracia]

"Understanding verses in Greek is not stronger than understanding context." Amen! This is why laymen can read the Bible for ourselves and come to a right understanding without learning Greek, without an expert dictating to us what it *really* means.

[intheirhouse]

Great point on the Greek. I have studied and read Greek for 22 years, and while it does provide light in many passages, it is no silver bullet against context. Great observation Nick!

[SheepDog]

...and he's back. Thank for posting and for "contending for the faith"

[alanmunch]

Context is so important. I always remember a wise saying by a Bible school principal. He said whenever students came with a question about a specific verse, he would say he was busy for a few minutes. “Sit there, and, while you’re waiting, read the chapter or section before that verse, and continue reading the next chapter too, ” he would say. “By then, I’ll be free to discuss the verse with you.” In nine times out of ten, he said, the student said he/she no longer had a query; it made sense now. So they left, not needing any further help!

[R.L.KRANESCHRADTT]

10:34 Context is always KING "Isolating verses in Greek does not trump Context"....True, the most important thing among Calvinists is that scriptures be found to insure Calvinism survive. This is valued above correct understanding of scripture. As Kevin Thompson said.. they do not read the Bible in Explore mode to discover what it says... but in Conformation mode to support what they already believe.

[salvadaXgracia]

The point about Jesus' other "unconditional" promises to all of "you" his audience elsewhere in John 6 and about the prophet Jonah's message is an excellent argument. They are stated without a conditional but the conditional is implied and understood by the audience. None of them think that some sort of secret mystical drawing is going on that they have absolutely no say in. They understand from the Old Testament that blessings are contingent on their choosing Yehováh over other gods, choosing life over death, choosing repentance over rebellion, etc.

[barberquest]

Hello there 👋🏾 new subscriber. I pray that Calvinist eyes will be open to the truth. 🙏🏾

[josephddobbs]

I love your content!!! It is always enlightening, thorough, and based on scripture. This video definitely proved its point. The Calvinist, sadly, will just ignore your whole argument and say, “you just don’t understand Calvinism.” Lol

[rachelbatista-ry]

John 10:38 But if I do, even if you do not believe Me, believe the works, so that you may know and may understand that the Father is in Me, and I in the Father."

[JakeHageman]

Have NEVER heard the argument from Matthew 11. Was familiar with the verse but never made the connection. Thank you!!!

[mikev]

It depends on how you interpret the word drawn. It doesn't necessarily imply an intent by God to pull an individual in. For example, a light will draw a moth in, but the light isn't physically pulling the moth in. The light shines and the moth sees it as something desirable and migrates towards it. God shows us the light and we can chose to move towards it or not. If the chosen were selected before the earth was created, why would God send Jesus to teach us to repent?

[BingoNamo-gbpz]

“And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw ALL MEN unto me.” - John 12:32

Never understood why this verse alone isn’t enough to refute the Calvinism approach to John 6:44.

[douglas]

So the dozens and dozens of verses in The New Testament which support Calvinism, are all taken out of context?

[jeremiest-louis]

amazing argument, Leighton needs to see this

[bguptill]

Your argument from Matt 11 is very strong. That is a really great connection. Good job!

If you also include Jesus’ clarification of v44 in v64-65 to support the idea that the Calvinist interpretation is incorrect, you have a certain 1-2 punch to undermine the Calvinist interpretation of v44.

“There are some of you who do not believe, and for that reason I said they were not drawn by the father.”

That makes the drawing conditional on faith.

[michaelgriffiths]

Great to see another thoroughly scriptural basis for the refuation of Calvinism, which is to be brutally honest, "another Gospel" and one to keep well away from

[primeobjective]

This is why scholars always say, "Context is KING."

The Calvinist Jesus tells 'group A' in John 6:27 that eternal life is avaliable to them, when they reject him, he tells them in Jn. 6:44 that salvation was never for them to begin with. Lol

He is quite a deceiver.

[Jesusisking]

Let's imagine a Calvinist being honest when sharing hidden parts of their doctrine if someone asked what they believed...

"God may hate your child. God made most people to glorify him in hell for all eternity with having zero choice. Our leader John Calvin was instrumental in murdering many people. Anytime you see the words "world" or "all" in the bible it means only the elect. Having just the bible will not suffice as we recommend lots of other books to understand the bible. A child being abused was ordained by God."

I love the Calvinist folks, just can't agree with their twisted theology.

[lonecar]

Those that are sincere in their want for peace and truth are drawn to God because that is what God is, peace IN truth,
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:…
John 6:44 (KJV)
Amen

[wesley]

Maybe someone else here already said this, but I heard James White say (in the debate, I think..) that when Jesus says that about tyre and sidon, that he's just using an expression of exasperation-- that in those cities, being so especially wicked, even they were more reachable than these Pharisees. I understand the inconsistency of this explanation (why be exasperated over something you've causily determined, for one thing), but somehow it seems to work for me in explaining away this verse in Matthew. We non calvinists have similar explanations of other verses, where we appeal to the verse being using a literary device or being merely expressive. Curious what you'd you say to James White's explanation.. I'm always trying to refine my arguments against Calvinism 🙏❤️