Was Jesus a Historical Figure? w/ Jordan Peterson

In this clip, Matt Fradd and Jordan Peterson talk about Jesus as a historical figure as proof of his existence.

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[yhckelly]

I'm 48, been a pastor for 14 years. Never in my whole life has any person, class, or ministry encouraged me in the practical application of my Christian faith more than Dr. Jordan Peterson.

[ninjason]

@4:15 "We are here to become stronger, not to be protected"! This is the perspective on life if you want to succeed.

[dlmullins]

I grew up in the fifties in an Appalachian coal camp. I was sexually molested for years at age 6-11 by a neighbor lady. She also beat me and threatened to kill my family if i ever told. Thank God we moved North on my twelfth birthday. I blocked the abuse but always had flash backs. A few years later i started getting into a lot of very bad fights. Nose broken three times, ribs broken, compound fracture of right elbow etc... then as an adult the abuse came back to my mind and i decided to confront the abuser, but found she had died years before. I chose to fight everyone. I wish i had faced my demons earlier. I am still messed up at seventy one years old but at least i know why now. .

[colleenshea]

Jordan Peterson is one of the greatest well intentioned intellecutals helping people today. And help he does ! It is his mission and he does it most excellently.

[CaptainMyron]

The fact that a man named Jordan, like the river, is responsible for many men getting baptized has somewhere a metaphysical aspect.

[gs.daniel]

When i realized this, this mirroring from OT and NT, and how brilliant all of those proposed stories, and how Jesus not just came to fulfill proficiencies, but to mimic the OT in its own HERO JOURNEY, as an example, in the flesh in order for us to relate to... When i realized this, this opened me for Christianity. New Born! I was mind blown. I didnt knew what was the Bible really and who was Jesus.

Hallelujah

[ChinaAikikai]

The historicity of Jesus and his cruxifixction is beyond doubt among scholars these days. More confirmation in secular writings than we know about Alexander the Great.

[brando]

What poisons you is the witnessing and self reflection of your own participation in the crucifixion of perfection.
Or in other words, witnessing in yourself the event that caused Adam to fall (the sin), and accepting that you are just like him, and since him, you can know it.
What follows is the recognition that the second Adam that you are witnessing, is being crushed FOR you, in your stead, and is crushing the very snake that bites you (your sin) while you witness Him.

[anderstopp]

'We're here to become stronger, we're not here to be protected'. Great idea for a gym T-shirt.

[LumosityGeek-wzfe]

I had a to deal the worst forms of anxiety for entire year, didn't took any drugs, I wanted to overcome it by myself, and miserably failed to do so, UNTILL I decided to do what kept me stuck in loop, I stopped comparing present with past, for a while.... I stepped out from that darkness that kept me in physical pain for 1 entire year..

[loganmisiak]

Jesus crucifixion is not only found in the bible (a collection of ancient manuscripts), but his crucifixion is found in external sources like: Josephus, plinny of rome, ignatius, polycarp, Etc.

[PastorCleveland]

I love Jordan, I really do, but he dodged around the issue completely! Romans 10:9 - "because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." .... The Judeo Christian faith is not just predicated on a story that fits with archetypal truth. It's predicated on a real historical Christ who really entered into humanity, really lived, really bled and died and really rose from the dead.
By claiming the historicity of Christ doesn't matter, Jordan is being intellectually dishonest. It DOES matter. Because God does not call us to a life of self-sacrifice based on the IDEA of his sacrifice. He calls us to a life of self-sacrifice because he really DID die. If Christ really did not die, if his blood really was not shed, if he really did not raise from the dead, then our faith is in vain!
Beloved, it's fine to appreciate Jordan Peterson. I do. And I think it's a wonderful idea to pray for him. But, let's not beat around the bush. As of right now, he is preaching a different gospel - a gospel devoid of the real Christ. Ultimately, his gospel has more in line with progressive Christianity than it does with the real catholic faith.

[mcmike]

This is a profoundly brilliant understanding. I highly recommend listening. The way he uses psychoanalytical understanding to justify historicity… Thanks for sharing

[codyalacarte]

Tell me you’re best friends with Jonathan Pageau without telling me you’re best friends with Jonathan Jonathan Pageau

[philcortens]

Like I always say, Catholicism (ne Christianity) is simply the most plausible explanation of who we are and what we're doing here.

[GXP]

***JP just explained the story of the Israelites in the desert and broke down what all the symbolism of objects (staff, serpents) mean in plain English so readers can better understand the meaning of the Moses story.
What a great job JP did love it, he really is an excellent teacher 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[wesleyhanson]

Dr. Peterson's answer - "Yes, and far more than that!" So cool!

[TrustintheSon]

Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up. John 3 :14.

[TheGeneralGrievous]

"The Gospels contain a fairystory, or a story of a larger kind which embraces all the essence of fairy-stories. They contain many marvels—peculiarly artistic, beautiful, and moving: “mythical” in their perfect, self-contained significance; and among the marvels is the greatest and most complete conceivable eucatastrophe. But this story has entered History and the primary world; the desire and aspiration of sub-creation has been raised to the fulfillment of Creation. The Birth of Christ is the eucatastrophe of Man's history. The Resurrection is the eucatastrophe of the story of the Incarnation. This story begins and ends in joy. It has pre-eminently the “inner consistency of reality.” There is no tale ever told that men would rather find was true, and none which so many sceptical men have accepted as true on its own merits. For the Art of it has the supremely convincing tone of Primary Art, that is, of Creation. To reject it leads either to sadness or to wrath. ... This story is supreme; and it is true. Art has been verified. God is the Lord, of angels, and of men—and of elves. Legend and History have met and fused." ~ J.R.R. Tolkien

[Hedgehog-jibm]

The Bible is NOT just a story. It is the divine Word of God. Jesus rules & reigns in His kingdom. Christ is the king of the universe & you should make Him lord of your life.