Missing 411 | National Park Disappearances

Missing 411 is a profile of mysterious commonalities among seemingly unconnected missing persons cases in national parks and forests. It's been estimated that there are over 1,600 mysterious national park disappearances, and that number is increasing.

David Paulides, who formulated the profile, has catalogued and researched many of these cases, recording them in his book series Missing 411 and subsequent documentaries. Paulides has suggested that the National Park Service failed victims' families by not developing an adequate system to catalog and track cases.

Paulides has appeared on Coast to Coast AM and Art Bell's Midnight in the Desert to discuss his findings nationally.

Missing 411 cases have strange profile points, such as victims often missing one or both shoes. Another profile point outlined by Paulides is that bodies are regularly found in areas that have already been thoroughly combed by Search and Rescue teams. The Missing 411 profile has evolved and changed over the course of 9 books. There is no firmly established profile, so we have selected points from multiple eras.

These profile points will be examined within three cases: James McGrogan, Bart Schleyer, and Mike Petersen.

While David Paulides does not speculate on the cause of commonalities between Missing 411 cases, there are theories from skeptics and believers alike. They range from skewed data sampling to extraterrestrials and bigfoot.

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0:00 – Introduction
0:56 – Missing 411 Origin
4:49 – Missing 411 Profile
7:39 – Case 1: James McGrogan
11:10 – Case 2: Bart Schleyer
16:31 – Case 3: Mike Petersen
19:16 – Possible Theories

[greatestamerican]

I am a backcountry wilderness photographer. I have spent more time alone deep in the mountains than most would ever believe. I have backpacked thousands of miles in the California wilderness/mountains while completely alone. Spent hundreds of nights alone in the mountains. Never had one incident that weirded me out or gave me the creeps, and I've even camped near old remote plane crash sites where people definitely died. I have since moved to the PNW, and after a few years of doing my thing up here, I must say - I have been creeped out *many times* in certain parts of the wilderness/mountains up here. Definitely the distinct and present feeling of being watched/not alone. Chills & that animal instinct that tell you to leave a place. I'm not one to believe in supernatural things, but the feelings I have gotten in some areas of the Washington/Oregon wilderness are unlike anything I've ever experienced. Still don't know what to make of it.

[GorgonsEye]

I remember September 26th 2019, my husband and I were going on the Appalachian trail in Shenandoah park. Now this trail was open to the public and we definitely aren't the type to go off trail since we knew people get lost for days or go missing, but it seemed as through the trail wasn't used for a while. We hiked for about 1/8 of a mile, and all of a sudden I heard something and felt like someone or something was watching us and waiting. We've notice our dog was getting nervous and suddenly, he wanted to turn around. Our dog never does that! We immediately thought we should too. I swear our dog saved us because we felt there was something waiting for us around the corner. Very chilling 😨 when we turned around, we were watching our backs and were prepared to fight since we felt like we were being followed.

I remember this day since the next day my husband proposed to me!! I'm so grateful we made it out a live and we're now married with a bright future ❤️

Moral of the story: Listen to your instinct and furry companion. It might just save your life 😉

[starfranklyn]

'bears do not slay, they simply begin to eat you whether alive or not". Discovered a new phobia today.

[VoiceForTheSilenced]

A lot of these people that actually were found were with out clothes, even in snow and harsh weather. I just wanted to note people in the final stages of hypothermia engage in "paradoxical undressing" because, as they lose rationality and their nerves are damaged, they feel incredibly, irrationally hot. They strip off their clothes to cool themselves down as they are freezing to death.

[vegaswoman]

If you ever get lost in a National Park, STAY PUT. Do not wander from the last point you were seen.

[kominion]

It’s shocking to me that there’s no database yet for people who go missing in woods and national parks. Way too many strange cases.

[MrCrossj]

I was way out in the middle of the woods in Oregon one day target shooting when a man ran in front of me as I'm actively shooting yelling at me that he owned the land i was shooting on. He was dirty with long hair and looked pretty rough. I was so shocked to see anyone i just told him i would leave even though i was certain i was on national forest land. I drove all around there to see if there was anything else out there like a house. All i could find was more woods. I learned that day you are not always as alone in an isolated place as you may think.

[zeeby]

I’ve been so captivated by these stories since a young man went missing in the woods outside my town in the summer of 2020. I’ve never heard a case more bizarre and frustrating but his story hasn’t really gotten outside of Oregon. If you wanna get angry about something, look up Michael Bryson. His family is still looking for him and it seriously needs more coverage

[Demon-tlev]

Its crazy how media doesnt talk about this or human trafficing even tho these are very serious issues going in right now in the present . but for some reason we talk about the past misdeeds.

[dylanpursel]

Is this a strange coincidence, or is someone or something hunting humans in our national parks and woods?

[EPBF]

Can you do a video on the Missing Indigenous Women in USA more awareness needs to be brought to this

[rochesterloode]

Remember just because you may be "well prepared", and "experienced" does NOT mean that something is not extremely dangerous, or a smart idea.

[neweyes]

No matter how great you navigate the wilderness and how well you are supplied you should never go it alone. God bless.

[Invertmini]

The feelings i get in the Washington and Oregon forrests is something else… Anyone who lives in the PNW knows that weird energy in the Forrests like somebody or something is watching you always.

[linggasy]

I didn't know there are tons of unresolved missing cases in US national park. It makes my favourite movie, The Descent, seems real rather than just a made-up movie.

[kacieogle]

Best bet, if you get that strange feeling.... Like nervous or something is watching you, back out slowly! Don't ignore you senses! Period!

[hannakentm]

Damn dude I've been searching a while for a short but effective "intro" video into the Missing 411 phenomena for people who've never heard of it, to try to get them into it and become aware. I think I found it here. Not too long and has all of the fundamentals and parts needed to put that hook into someone's brain and encourage them to take the dive into this particular rabbit hole. And it beats trying to explain this whole phenomena in words to newbs time and time again. Good work! Keep it rolling.

[nightmarepolice]

Things to know when traveling through the woods
1. Never travel alone- always take three or more people with you
2. Never wear red- most people that go missing in national Forest were wearing red (ever heard of little red Riding Hood)
3. Share your tent or keep all of your tents very close
4. Never go anywhere alone, always take someone with you and never split up even when relieving yourself.
5. If traveling with children never let them walk behind you, keep them in front of you at all times.
6. Keep your weapon close. Gun, knife, taser, pepperspray, etc. Whatever your weapon is make sure you can access it quickly and always be mindful of it. Never forget your weapon.
7. Stay away from random stairs, chairs, arches, house or out of place things and structures- Ignore them quickly get away from them.
8. Ignore the sounds of a crying baby, ignore the sounds of a crying baby.
9. Be wary and cautious of strangers.
10. Know some spiritual and religious knowledge, prayers, verses of power from the Quran or Bible.
11. Be vigilant and always stay calm.

[logicaldude]

I think a lot of weird cases could just be chalked up to people getting lost, starting to get dehydrated and delirious, and then weird things happen. Dehydration and exhaustion can make people do things that are pretty insane.

[TheSaintedOne]

With the success of the "Missing 411" (copyrighted, all rights reserved) books, shows, documentaries, you'd think Paulides could afford that list by now.